An iRacing movie... not just for iRacing enthusiasts

If you want a cheaper alternative try Live for Speed.

As I probably said earlier in the thread somewhere, the big problem I have is that while I dislike the structure of iRacing in many ways, once I tried iRacing I couldn't go back to any other sims... they all feel so inferior now. :-(

I still admire the work done by the small LFS team, and it's hard to complain about the flexibility it offers. But phase three is looooooooooong overdue. My hopes are resting entirely on rFactor2 now. Otherwise it looks like I'm destined to be renting iRacing forever. And I'm too much of a skinflint to enjoy that. :->

Andrew McP
 
Hmmm. Where did I see that video before? :D
I remember the editing was really good. Nice one Andrew.

I'm not going to start on my iRacing views right now other than to say I am still on the fence despite having just tried another month. And Shannon Whitmore in control of all communications regarding leagues... Don't make me laugh! I remember adminning for Sierra the stuff that guy would get up to.
And the tyre model is still generally frustrating.

The DMP and JRL groups are fairly polarised for and against it though. It's weird how it's all manifesting. The new Nascar deals pretty cool though. Jr and AJ etc are all over it.
 
I'm not going to start on my iRacing views right now other than to say I am still on the fence despite having just tried another month.

Yes, it's a tricky sim to justify. Ignoring the pricing model (I don't mind paying, but paying for content you can't use as you see fit hurts) there are many aspects about iRacing which annoy me. The biggest is the fact that it's such a divisive force among the simming community. Something with the potential to be the best sim ever created shouldn't be like that ... but it is. Too much baggage. Too many grand schemes and not enough subscribers to support them.

In the end though I always end up being glad that Kaemmer's still coding, and I find myself increasingly prepared to cough up just to enjoy his distinctive touch when it comes to modelling virtual vehicles on virtual tracks.

But it is still hard to jump definitively into or out of iRacing. The current boost in the pound v the dollar makes me contemplate a year. But I also like the idea of taking time off regularly, and I won't do that if I've paid for it up front. I also think the best way to influence change in iRacing is by joining regularly for a short time, then drop out to show it's still not the service you want.

Messy stuff. Hobbies aren't supposed to be this complicated, are they? :-)

Andrew McP
 
I saw you posting about on the iRacing forums, good to see you back :)

I've not got pretty much all content (I went back up to 100% at the last update, then they released Darlington and I don't buy stuff on it's own, only once I can get the 10% discount.

On the plus side, if I ignore the fact I've spent a ridiculous amount of cash so far, it's now just the usual subscription and $50-60 each 13th week/update which is a little bit more manageable.

They have annoyed me though, cutting the SK down from a full week last season to just 2 days this season (and it was going to be just one before a large group of us moaned about it), as well as cutting the Silver Crown off completely does annoy me.

But saying that, I'm fairly sure I'll still get another years subscription at the next update though (think it runs till august, so just after next update, but i'll use the $60 credit for any new cars/tracks at the next update :P)

Currently I'm running 4 series (Late Models, SK Modifieds, Skippy and Spec Racer Ford) and competing for the division win in each of those, so that's 6-8 races per week as well as the practice which is more than enough to keep me busy :)

Only other sim I have installed/use is rFactor now, and that's purely to use the mod community to get a general gist of certain circuits that I'm about to race my motorbike at in real life as I hadn't been to any of them at the beginning of the season, and still got Snetterton, Oulton, Cadwell, Brands GP, Thruxton and Lydden to 'learn' :p
 
I wonder how iRacing will fair come July/August as that coincides with the general release last year plus 1yr sign up. I'm one of those. Because I'm generally carp I don't grok the SR I can't enjoy racing anyone. Too concerned with keeping a good SR so if someone catches me up and just let them passed. When you factor in the 'clever' way they change the content requirements I can't compete without having to buy new tracks. Sadly I'll be dropping out in July and I know several more who are saying the same thing.

Skill, when are you racing at Castle Combe? That's my local track :)
 
On the plus side, if I ignore the fact I've spent a ridiculous amount of cash so far, it's now just the usual subscription and $50-60 each 13th week/update which is a little bit more manageable.

There is a lot to be said for diving into iRacing with both feet, or not at all. Ok, now you can actually get a pretty rewarding experience with the just the Rookie stuff (thanks mostly to the SRF, which livens things up considerably). But, as I've found, it's all too easy to end up buying extra in 3's & 6's 'just for the discount'. Classic marketing traps... I hate falling into them. :-) But if you just buy all the stuff you're nearly always going to be able to find a decent race to join (one you're eligible, obviously). That makes a big difference to the feeling of 'exclusion' you can get when you're sitting there watching races you could join if you parted with more cash. That leads to some very mixed emotions, and I'm not sure the 100% club (iRacing's biggest fans) and iRacing themselves (who have to pay for nowt!) really understand.

They have annoyed me though, cutting the SK down from a full week last season to just 2 days this season, as well as cutting the Silver Crown off completely does annoy me.

I understood the frustrations expressed, but I also think iRacing has got way, way, *way* ahead of itself. They should be doing everything possible to maximise race fields.. that's when the whole split system comes into its own and produces rewarding racing. So I'm actually in favour of a *massive* content cull, because even with the Nascar announcement I doubt we'll get the huge influx of racers iRacing really needs. And even if we do, I think a lot of them will not have been following the project, will expect something similar to other games/sims, and there'll be a big rise in discontented rumblings.

Of course the Dale Jr. effect may calm a lot of that. Some people seem to worship the ground he drives on. All he has to do is post on the forums and the Red Sea of doubts parts. ;-)

Only other sim I have installed/use is rFactor now

Sounds like you have very good reason to. I have my fingers crossed for rFactor2. I daren't expect too much though.

I wonder how iRacing will fair come July/August

Yes, it'll be interesting to see if that combined with the summer holiday effect causes a tumbleweed effect. I tend to race in the morning (I work nights) and it can be pretty deserted then at the best of times.

However, speaking as someone's who's on his third, and longest trip to the iZoo, it can be hard to stick to your resolve and stay away. You're only ever a few clicks away from reactivating your credit card details (though you do have to enter them again after about three months away).

I'm hoping to take the summer off after my 3 months runs out late in June, then benefit from another deal when iRacing panic and try to lure a lot of 1-year leavers back. I may just bottle it and cough up after two days away though. The more you've 'invested' in renting cars & tracks, the easier it is to justify the basic subscription.

I also must admit to enjoying both the internal and external politics of iRacing. It's a fascinating development whether you like it or not. It's almost worth the cost of entry just to read the forums. :-)

Andrew McP
 
I can see the frustration, personally I intend to run every series at one point, I do seem to be stuck on the D-Class stuff though, but yeah it's nice to be able to run any series I'm eligible when/if I want to.

I see that they want full fields, but as far as D-Class is concerned they were managing to get decent fields, even at the uk time, in both the Late Models and SK's last season.

And then the Silver Crown, this is more annoying because they never seem to give it a proper chance:
First season it was C-Class when only the very first wave of beta drivers where that class,
Second season they moved it up to B-Class, same problem
Third season they moved it to a single day and had the COT as the Class A and B car,
And now they've removed it completely, after proving last season that two series in a single class can work, move it back down to C class alongside the trucks and it'd be great.

Dale's my hero :p

I can see the NASCAR thing working nicely, and giving a decent rise in members, just hope that those members stick around, work up the licence levels and actually stick with it. That's what iRacing needs more than anything, a good 3-4x the member count, if not more.

Although downside to the influx of members, if any, is that they will be 99% american, there are already shed loads of americans, we need more europeans/aussies/'international' people to bring up the numbers that are racing during the uk times, although things like the Skippy and SRF seem to have decent splits whenever I've got time to race them :)
 
Hmmm, I remember when iRacing first came out and there was some big fuss about its model. I have never trialed it but I think I might have to give it a go some time, though my FFB wheel is minus FFB as the power is duff and I havent been able to fix it.

What sort of speced pc do you need for it? Reson being, I binned off my desktop a couple of months ago and am now using the work laptop hooked up to the tv. Low res on my Sony widescreen CRT TV works for some reason! lol :D
 
Do you need a credit card to activate the trial, or will a debit card do?

A credit card is still required, I think. They take PayPal now though, so that might help. If the free trial does work though it's important to remember to dive into the settings and turn off auto-renew, or you'll end up paying once the month runs out. That's fine if you want to stay, but it catches some people out.

What sort of speced pc do you need for it?

A dual core processor really helps (so I've read), but the graphics are pretty flexible. It is annoying though that iRacing continue to resist some kind of easily accessed free trial. It could even be offline-only, just to show off the vehicle physics. Still, iRacing's marketing techniques and 'sporting goals' are a mystery understood only by themselves!

Andrew McP

PS I think iRacing is the first sim I've driven in which force feedback is almost essential. You can probably manage without, but it's a sim which takes no prisoners, and you need all the feedback you can get.
 
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What the **** is going on with the damage model. :confused:
Can you wreck a car & still drive it whilst online/in a race ? Also why does the ground swallow part of the car every time it hits the deck :confused:
That looked about as SIM as Toca 1. :p
 
What the **** is going on with the damage model.

At the extremes of collision and damage modelling there isn't a PC on earth that could handle the physics, or a programming team that could spare the time to write the 100% accurate code. So you'll always have compromises.... especially at high speed. Truck crashes tend to be at 150mph+, hence the OTT drama.

iRacing is not a finished project by any means, and the actual driving models are -- on the whole -- very satisfying indeed. It's not perfect (far from it) but I would suggest that you can't judge any sim by watching movies.

And all the Toca games were, IMO, ***** unless you'd had a drink and were playing the console versions. :->

Andrew McP

PS At the lower levels you have one car reset when it's badly damaged. But there are no resets and no repairs (yet) at the higher levels. It is pretty brutal, the idea being to discourage dangerous racing tactics.
 
Why don't you give me a Lecture about SIM racing as I know Nothing about it.






/Sarcasm.
 
I've just started a 3 month trial. The physics and handling is somewhat tough after racing the Simbin games. Going to give it a go even if I am struggling to use the clutch in game!
 
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