Animal "rights" activists.

Slinwagh said:
But they were free and that is what counts for the activists.
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Just like the American mink that 'animal rights' activists realeased, that are now affecting things like out indigenous watervole population. These people are idiots, and shouldn't even be given the title of terrorists. Over recent years, great developments have been acieved in creating computer models of the human body for the purpose of medical testing. but until these are complete and 100% accurate, there is no other alternative to limited animal testing. I wonder if the animal rights people suggest we stop the development of all new drugs.
 
Cosmetics - No
Medical - No

What's the point in going half half? You either agree with animal testing or you don't. You can't say, yeah it's fine to put acid into little Fido's eyes for medical research, but don't even think about doing it for cosmetics or else I'll be angry and sad!

(And yes, I know I may have used medical drugs that were tested on animals to help get me better, although to be honest I can't remember the last time I had any medication)
 
I personaly think animal testing is wrong. There's no end of child killers, paedophiles and other people in prisons who are worthy of the job.

Nevermind the fact that a lot of illness can be cured naturaly without any medication through natural means and small lifestyle changes. Though the pharmaceutical companies don't want you to know this.
 
We are top of the food chain, get used to it. Agree dont hurt animals for no need, but if it will help make us better / protect / develop etc then wheres the problem?

All hippies should be killed, they really do my head in.
 
magick said:
I personaly think animal testing is wrong. There's no end of child killers, paedophiles and other people in prisons who are worthy of the job.

Nevermind the fact that a lot of illness can be cured naturaly without any medication through natural means and small lifestyle changes. Though the pharmaceutical companies don't want you to know this.
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Care to name a few that can be changed once started without medication?

Heart disease sure, but with pout meds you'll probably be dead before the changes help.
Smallpox, aids, cancer, diabetes, syphilis , leprosy how about these and hundreds more?

Please tell me your not one of those "crystals can cure me" types?
 
Freeman said:
Cosmetics - No
Medical - No

What's the point in going half half? You either agree with animal testing or you don't. You can't say, yeah it's fine to put acid into little Fido's eyes for medical research, but don't even think about doing it for cosmetics or else I'll be angry and sad!

(And yes, I know I may have used medical drugs that were tested on animals to help get me better, although to be honest I can't remember the last time I had any medication)
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Most people make the distinction, as it's the difference of meaning. i.e you would be ****** if someone cut your hand off for no good reason, but less so if it had gangrene and it was the hand or you.
 
Freeman said:
Cosmetics - No
Medical - No

What's the point in going half half? You either agree with animal testing or you don't. You can't say, yeah it's fine to put acid into little Fido's eyes for medical research, but don't even think about doing it for cosmetics or else I'll be angry and sad!
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This is outright stupid.

Do you not recognise the difference between saving human lives and ******* makeup?
 
magick said:
Nevermind the fact that a lot of illness can be cured naturaly without any medication through natural means and small lifestyle changes. Though the pharmaceutical companies don't want you to know this.
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As above, care to name a few serious illnesses then? I'm intrigued ;)

I'm usually one who stays out of animal rights thread, out of principle really as I do not like to comment on it as it's like banging ones head against a brick wall. Much like I don't enjoy speaking to acquaintances of friends who like to argue the point with me and dislike me simply for having been involved. However, I would like to know what serious illnesses (he said a lot, so at least one must be serious) can be cured by simply eating five a day or going jogging.
 
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AcidHell2 said:
:mad: hope they get caught and locked up for 250years or until dead. Use every new terrorist law on them and let them rot.
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Make them help in the observation of wild lions, those people always need bait :)

I'm sure the lion would be very gentle towards these people as they show animals so much care ;)
 
magick said:
I personaly think animal testing is wrong. There's no end of child killers, paedophiles and other people in prisons who are worthy of the job.
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Whilst agreeing with you that child killers and paedos are scum, I can't help seeing the irony that you would be willing to see a bunch of people (you don't like) suffering, but criticise the animal rights lot for doing or threatening just the same...
 
Tefal said:
Please tell me your not one of those "crystals can cure me" types?
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But... but... they can?

Animal testing all the way. Fido might look at me with those puppy eyes and make me melt, but my family and myself dropping dead are a far bigger concern.

There isn't an alternative at this moment in time. That is, sadly, a fact.
 
Humans need medicine (I disagree with cosmetic testing) and as long as testing on humans isn't allowed (Damn human rights, I can think of an awful lot of people who should be eligible for "testing" purposes) we only have a choice to use animals. I don't like it but it's outweighs my concern of dying of an illness which could be treatable if researched.
 
I don't agree with animal testing in any form. If I had an illness or whatever and the only way to find a cure was through animal testing, I would rather just leave it and die.
 
Mephisto said:
I don't agree with animal testing in any form. If I had an illness or whatever and the only way to find a cure was through animal testing, I would rather just leave it and die.
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Just out of general curiosity, when was the last time you took any medication, ie. paracetamol, aspirin ... ? I find it very hard to believe you would quite simply die rather than take medication. I'm not doubting you though as I do not know you.

You also would quite happily see your parents die rather than them take medication too, yes?
 
Mephisto said:
I don't agree with animal testing in any form. If I had an illness or whatever and the only way to find a cure was through animal testing, I would rather just leave it and die.
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So I take it that if you get ill with a disease that is currently curable, but the treatment involves drugs that were developed by being tested on animals you will choose to die instead?

:rolleyes:
 
i wonder how many dying animal rights protestors would stop to ask if the medication they need to take to live was ever tested on animals...
 
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Also, whether or not it makes a difference to those that disagree, I agree with animal testing and am also involved with Astrazenecas healthy volunteers trials. It helps it's in the same building as me, but still. If I'm going to do research into drug cures on animals, I'm quite happy to test them on myself further down the line.
 
Mephisto said:
I don't agree with animal testing in any form. If I had an illness or whatever and the only way to find a cure was through animal testing, I would rather just leave it and die.
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Hasn't all current medication out at the moment been tested on animals, or developed from information from animal trials. So you basically never take any medicine what about vaccinations?

More importantly if your young child need medication to live and it had been tested on animals, would you give the go ahead for them to treat him/her?
 
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