Annoying your neighbours

Codmate

Codmate

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Yes - this is aimed squarely at all you guys that think it's really 'cool' to annoy others around you.

Personally I have had to move house *three times* due to noisy neighbours. You have no idea the problems your "bangin' choons" can cause.

Apart from the fact that some people have kids that need to get to sleep - the vast majority of the population have to work for a living and don't appreciate being kept up all night.

Personally I call the noise protection people as soon as I hear something starting these days, as I know it will be a while before they, or the police, arrive.

Excessive noise from your neighbours is like an invasion of your home and can cause huge stress and anxiety. A friend of mine actually took a baseball-bat to his neighbours stereo (the neighbour was lucky he didn't receive the bat to his head) after being driven insane by months of abuse.

If you want loud music late at night GO TO A NIGHTCLUB - that is what they are for. Otherwise STFU and leave me in peace.

I love music, play in a band, do home-recording and listen to music all the time. I always show respect for those around me though and play things at an appropriate level.

I don't care how drunk you are and how much you want to impress your friends - you would be surprised how quickly those friends disappear once the cops arrive.

As an aside, you might also be surprised how little exposure to loud noises it takes to permanently damage your hearing or contract tinnitus. I've taken to wearing Elacin ER-20 Ear Plugs at many gigs to protect my hearing, as I believe people simply mix too loud at concerts these days (especially in small venues) to compensate for the many people's damaged hearing (usually the sound engineer's own).
I know too many sound guys, musicians and roadies who wished they had taken similar precautions in the past, to not do so...

Thanks.
 
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Well, in the middle of the day, people should be allowed to listin to music preety loud, maybe not all the time, but it doesent hurt to play music loud sometimes, the street i live in, i am proberbly the only one who plays loud music, but no one cares exept the next door enigbours, they have complained to the council, i got a letter through the post too!, i thought they were pathetic doing that, especially when i ALWAYS turn my music off after 9, there baby is more annoying than music, and kenny playing his trumpet or the pianno or the guitar is too!, usually everyday i play music loud, and when the next door neighbour goes out, its up full volume, its such a relief, i just see it that if people dont like people playing music at all, there preety darn boring. And the next door neigbours cant expect a Teenager to not play music, most teenagers my age will play music, and play it loud, at least i play decent music, next door want to be gratefull they dont live next to a bunch of Emo's listning to screaming penknifelovelif music!, The thing that annoys my neighbours the most is the Bass! i like loud bass, am like a bass addict lol :p.

You should let your neighbours listin to loud music sometimes, you cant get annoyed with them all the time, that would be just tottaly unfair.
 
I'm with Codmate on this, having just read another thread on here where people were boasting about annoying their neighbours and getting complaints from the council :rolleyes: The loudest I ever use my 40W amp is the 8 o'clock position, probably about 10-15% of it's total power, and I've made sure all my speakers are isolated from walls and floor. If I want to listen to music at night I use headphones.

It's just about whether you respect other people or not. Living next to noisy neighbours must be absolute hell. There's some lads about 10 doors down from us who play loud music in their garden and the whole street has to listen to it. Imagine living next door to them. It's not even good music either.
 
I always try to be considerate here, using headphones late on and to be honest, never really turn the volume up very high at all. We are in a full detached house though, and as I am often home on weekdays at the moment, I can turn it up a bit and it won't do any harm as everyone is at work or school. Either way, it seems you need it on very loud for it to get out of the house much with double glazing and good solid walls, I take it the problems are much worse with terraces or semis. I've never had noisy neighbours myself, but can see how it would get tired quickly. Also, I think even if it were songs I liked being played loudly next door, it would still annoy me.
 
willhub said:
And the next door neigbours cant expect a Teenager to not play music, most teenagers my age will play music, and play it loud, at least i play decent music, next door want to be gratefull they dont live next to a bunch of Emo's listning to screaming penknifelovelif music!
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Define decent music, I'm pretty sure music is subjective. You better not be lisitening to derivative rubbish and dubbing it "decent music".

I'm with the majority (so far) on this one. Inapproriately loud music gets annoying very quickly.

Codmate, glad to see someone else cares about their hearing. I've worn earplugs at gigs for 3 years now, makes me a bit more self-conscious when I'm singing along (badly) but can't beat that smug feeling when your friends can't hear a thing after the gig.
 
Ok, first off, i WAS NOT boasting about getting a letter form the council, i am ***** about it, i do not think its cool, i think its preety embarrasing that my pathetic neigbours have decided to do that.

Decent Music, i like lots, soul music, rock music everything really, just not classical or super chav music, i like a bit of r&b and hip hop too, i like a lot of the music from GTA VC, thats Decent music, real music were people are singing :).

Other day well, when the world cup was on, some people 2 doors down were having garden partys, no one cared at all in the day, you could hear it all through the village, but it wouldent suprise me if the people next door were complaining.

I dunno about wearing stuff to protect my ear, sometimes i get this wierd High pitch noise in my ear, just at random times, and sometimes after listning to music, never thought anything about it, untill i found my dad gets it coz of been exposed to really loud noise at the local power station were he used to work, cant remember what its called, but its annoying when you hear high pitched crap in your ear :mad:

Don't swear. FF
 
Tinnitus....

Thats the high pitched ringing

Got to agree 100% with Codmate on this post. What also "grinds my gears" is people not respecting the property they live in and the area.

I have a family of fully convicted drug dealers living beneath me and despite them being raided 7 times in two years, they always get away with the preverbial "personal use"

The kids (3 & 5) are still out on the street playing now, marker pen all over the stairs and chalk marks all over the front area.

Try complaining to my local council (Dundee) and am told Drug Dealing is not a matter for the Anti - Social team. Unbelievable !!!!!
 
willhub said:
Ok, first off, i WAS NOT boasting about getting a letter form the council, i am ***** off about it, i do not think its cool, i think its preety embarrasing that my pathetic neigbours have decided to do that.
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Ok, not boasting exactly, but it doesn't sound like you respect them, calling them pathetic and boring and getting ***** off at them like it's their fault, rather than analyzing your own behaviour. Not all teenagers play 505W systems on full power.

Don't swear. FF.
 
willhub said:
Ok, first off, i WAS NOT boasting about getting a letter form the council, i am ****** off about it, i do not think its cool, i think its preety embarrasing that my pathetic neigbours have decided to do that.
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Yeah, but your "pathetic" neighbours weren't the ones playing the music loud, were they? It was clearly annoying if they went to the extent of contacting the council!

I only have small PC speakers but have gone outside with my window open with them up "loud" to make sure I'm not blasting out music at a volume that's likely to affect our neighbours as on the whole they're decent people and I wouldn't want to annoy them as they've caused us no problem.

I would, however, like to take a baseball bat to the drumkit belonging to the moron who insists on playing it (badly) between 12am - 1:30am some nights...
 
I try to be as considerate as I can personally... I mean, I'm aware my Z-5500's (or the sub at least) can be pretty damn loud, and I certainly try to keep it in reasonable levels... I've no idea what it sounds like next door though. Though my taste tends to include JPop rather than 'bangin' rap or whatever.
That said, we don't moan about the mass horde of screaming kiddies that hang around outside our house, so all is good.

At the end of the day, a neighbourhood is a bit of give and take. Complaining about a little bit of noise from a house isn't playing fair. We all make a bit of noise, be it our speaker systems or our kids. The key here is to simply have some consideration... I might be a little loud, I do try though, and certainly playing music that loud after 9pm is bang out of order.
 
Codmate said:
If you want loud music late at night GO TO A NIGHTCLUB - that is what they are for. Otherwise STFU and leave me in peace.
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Would it be ok to return from a nightclub and play 'bangin choons' at around 7am? this way the kids will be up and its a good alarm for people going to work

What about people who work nightshifts, does this mean everyone has to keep quiet all the time?

Dont get me wrong our neighbour is safe and never complains, but he has in the past and we turned it down. Some mates have recently moved house and they got back after a night out and were just singing/shouting (not playing music) and a guy from over the road went over. He said to keep it down as it was 4am and they said ok, sorry mate. To which he replied with **** off! They then appologised the next day and he more or less said the same thing.

This sort of thing would just want to make me crank that amp to the max!
 
Swordfish said:
Try complaining to my local council (Dundee) and am told Drug Dealing is not a matter for the Anti - Social team. Unbelievable !!!!!
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OT:

Where do you live mate, Peddie street? :p That place is a drug dealer haven!

I wouldn't expect the councils to do anything .. that's like expecting the police to fight crime :D
 
Phil99 said:
Yeah, but your "pathetic" neighbours weren't the ones playing the music loud, were they? It was clearly annoying if they went to the extent of contacting the council!

I only have small PC speakers but have gone outside with my window open with them up "loud" to make sure I'm not blasting out music at a volume that's likely to affect our neighbours as on the whole they're decent people and I wouldn't want to annoy them as they've caused us no problem.

I would, however, like to take a baseball bat to the drumkit belonging to the moron who insists on playing it (badly) between 12am - 1:30am some nights...
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No it wasent clearly annoying, you dont understand, you see first he came around saying around it, and fine i turned it down, dint have it loud for the next couple of days and what do ya kno, letter through the door, he must have contacted them before he came around complaining, and that IS pathetic, he should have at least TOLD us first, i would sound proof my darn walla if possible but costs too much, This is why there pathetic, as the slightest hint of bass and there moaning and whining like there baby, and its worse when you hear them arguing and all the words coming out of his wive's mouth. :rolleyes: Also its not like i play music all the time, in the morning up to about 1 or 2 in the afternoon i dont as my dad is asleep from working nightshifts, i just play loud music on and off, its not constant, now that would be annoying!, and when nextdoor is on holiday for a week, your not still gunna play music quiet unless you live in terrace house. Fish99, whats this about playing a 505W system on full power, from what i seen W dont matter so 2 70W RMS decent Hi-Fi's could go louder, i dont play it on full power since i got X-FI Fatal1ty coz the speaker volume has increase a lot on the low levels, the max i go is 14, i used to go up to the full 31 (boost 11) but not anymore becouse i went out into the street and it was like as loud as been in a night club and you could hear it from other end of village so i dont really turn it up that loud anymore.
 
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7am is too early. Acceptable hours are between 9am and 9pm.
Even then, a certain level just isn't acceptable IMO unless you have prior agreement with your neighbours.

Drummers should pre-arrange practice times with their neighbours for instance.

I've not been able to hear my own TV on full volume before because my neighbours were playing 'music'. This was at 5pm - and is still unacceptable, regardless of the time.

Yes - some people work night shifts. This is yet another cause to be considerate. Be aware of those around you and their patterns. Choose appropriate times to be loud. If you need to be loud a lot of the time, get some sound-proofing installed.

Until you've been the victim of a noise nuisance you have no idea how stressful it is. It's even driven people to kill in the past, and I can understand why! People should also realise that loud music is intimidating and many people will be too scared to complain - especially if they are elderly.

Anyway - I'm glad most people here have the right idea. If anybody has problems, a good site to visit is http://www.nfh.org.uk/ (Neighbours From Hell in Britain). They have some good advice and support forums there.
 
willhub said:
Fish99, whats this about playing a 505W system on full power, from what i seen W dont matter so 2 70W RMS decent Hi-Fi's could go louder, i dont play it on full power since i got X-FI Fatal1ty coz the speaker volume has increase a lot on the low levels, the max i go is 14, i used to go up to the full 31 (boost 11) but not anymore becouse i went out into the street and it was like as loud as been in a night club and you could hear it from other end of village so i dont really turn it up that loud anymore.
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You can barely hear my hi-fi from the next room let alone the other end of the village. I've set it to the loudest I ever use it at and listenned in the adjacent room in our house, and you could barely hear anything. So therefore the neighbours can also barely hear it. I've never had a single word of complaint from them either and I only use the system about an hour per day and always with the windows closed. I've also bought proper spiked stands to isolate the speakers from the floor.

The wattage ratings on your Z5500 may be fantasy, but clearly if you can hear it all over the village, then it's louder than my 40W system on 10% volume. Also if all teenagers play loud music, then how come you are, by your own admission, the only one in your street who plays loud music? Small street? ;)

Having said all that a trumpet and piano and also pretty loud though, so it sounds like your neighbours are guilty too. The baby doesn't have a volume control though :)

It's unfortunate you like so much bass, because it's only the bass really that travels through walls.
 
if only it were possible to stop bass traveling into other houses withought paying loads of money :(.

Uhmm, the reason i am the only one who plays louder music is becouse most people in my street are fairly old, not old were they dont want to be desturbed etc.., i am the only teenager in my close exept for one 4 houses accross, but i dont think he likes music :p, i was suprised when my next door neigbour did contact the councill right after coming around complaining, he should if waited a few weeks, he used to be a nice person, he gave me piano and guitar lessons but i quit becouse i was inpatient and for some reason thought you could learn how to play em overnight. My mum says that my nextdoor neighbours wife is behind it all becouse she is Evil, she is a demon.

I think i am the only person in my close that actually like music, exept for people 2 doors down who had quite a lot of garden partys during the world cup, i wish everyone was like me, i actually like it when people are playing loud music, i dont like it when its all quiet outside, its like everyone is dead.

I also like it when the bass shakes the whole house, i dont like it when nothing shakes :p i am making my sub downfacing so that the actual speaker is facing the floor, it will make the floor feel like there is an earthquake, but hopefull i will get more bass and then i will have ot turn it down so it wont be as loud next door :).

Also, the other thing that bothers me about them complaining is that, they used to say its ok, that the baby does nto get woke up by the music, and then i get new speaker system and they start the complain, and they also used to say its only the bass that annoys them, so i turn the bass down and the speakers are quite loud, and they complain about the speakers :mad: .
 
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willhub should take note

My EH dept employers regularly get a warrant and seize equipment when
faced with behaviour like his. We take everthing capable of making excessive
music noise, hifi , playstations, PC, speakers, CD's, MP3's the lot and you
have to go to court just to try to get it back.

We often go back the follwoing week as well as many smart alecs say stuff
it and go to argos for some cheap gear and carry on as before.

I imagine diaries of noise are being compiled by more than one neighbour,
maybe a digital tape recorder is in place or an EHO will observe the next
excessive noise event. An abatement notice is about due!

The noise complaints will be logged and when nearby houses are sold buyers
will get the record and it could make house sales fall through which will make
his family very popular.

I say let the neighbours play nusery songs really loud at irregular intervals
when dad is sleeping off the nightshift and see it that still feels right.

Otherwise its classic teenage empathy deficit

But at least he has had a good stab a defending his point of view

a BOF
 
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