Another anit-sony news?

Kamakazie! said:
games developers are very entrenched in the single threaded way of doing things. With dual cores on the PC becoming main stream they are going to have to start producing multithreaded engines/games so i don't think this is the problem for the PS3... especially as the xbox 360 has 3 cores and no ones is complaining about developing for that.
THe problem is the way in which the cell processor works... i've read some things about it on various sites but don't remember many of the details other than its gotta be a pain the the ass to code for... that coupled with the need for advanced graphics/physics/sound makes the production costs HUGE! People will get the hang of it for sure... but by that time will it be too late?




Whilst i think most of your post is spot on, this paragraph is misinformed. All the HD-DVD and BR players will have the HDCP chip onboard, the question to be answered is wether the film studios will make use of it and force those that want to watch their films to have a HDCP compliant hdmi/dvi port and display. If they don't have these then the player will force the signal to be downscaled or mean it can't be played over the component/vga connections. All the major studios have said that their first releases on these new formats WILL NOT make use of HDCP. For about 6months if not more... after that it is anyones guess.

EDIT: removed "content protection" after HDCP because thats what the CP is for :p
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Here is an article that suggests what I am saying. It is a 360 site and it may just be speculation but this is why I mentioned it.

http://editorials.teamxbox.com/xbox/1608/Editorial-The-Secret-HDMI-Pact/p1/
 
kronologic is right the top brass at sony have lost the plot.
a few years ago sony was one of the best companys developing and making electronic devices.
there tv sets were rated as being very good quality and leaders in there field.
well not any more all the other companys have caught up and some have beaten them.they are not world leaders anymore.
where have all their profits gone.
they have just borrowed millions to keep going.
microsoft must be doing something right as they have the money to pour into the 360 if needed.
if sony are not careful they could go the way of the dreamcast simply by stupid management.
i have a 360 and it will do all i want till next year till i see what happens to the ps3.
after all half a grand is a lot of money to pay for a lame duck.
cheers ian.
 
Microsoft are doing something right, they produce the world's biggest selling operating system(s) and various other software (e.g. Office) not to mention all the other things they do which aren't even remotely games console/hardware related. Has the XBOX project even generated a profit for them yet?

The XBOX could have been a complete flop and they'd still have loads of money.

Also, SCE are probably a different division of Sony to the one that makes the TVs.
 
on other forums a sony spokeman is stating that the borrowed money is for general use ie blueray and lcd technoligy.
if blueray fails sony could be in one hell of a mess.
cheers ian.
 
Eliot said:
the sooner people realise sony is bad for gaming the better, seriously, they are killing it
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Not entirely. I mean you cant deny the PS2 was a good console with some quality games and a great lifespan. Its just now they seem to have lost the plot a bit.
 
Eliot said:
the sooner people realise sony is bad for gaming the better, seriously, they are killing it
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:confused:

Sony took gaming out of the geek's bedroom into the maintream. More people game now than ever before.

How can that possibly be 'killing gaming'??
 
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Eliot said:
the sooner people realise sony is bad for gaming the better, seriously, they are killing it
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Having more than one company out there supporting games is almost never going to be a bad thing though. Though there are some really rubbish games out there on the PS2, there are some utterly amazing ones out there too. That's the same for all consoles, probably equal in proportion too to the number of games per system.

If anything, Sony are actually making gaming better not killing it. PlayStation is a household name now, Xbox and gamecube less so. You've got to have done pretty darn good to get your product so widely known.
 
What keeps Sony going?
Their legions of Fanboys. I sit opposite a Sony boy at work and his brand loyalty scares me....

He is buying a PS3 even though he has admitted to me that he will never use it. (Just furniture to go with the rest of his Sony equipment)
 
rayb74 said:
What keeps Sony going?
Their legions of Fanboys. I sit opposite a Sony boy at work and his brand loyalty scares me....

He is buying a PS3 even though he has admitted to me that he will never use it. (Just furniture to go with the rest of his Sony equipment)
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Thats true fanboyism... not the wannabe fanboys of the internet.
 
ok sony arent killing it, and i apprieciate they made it mainstream and all that, but they have brought endless sequels and a lack of innovation along with it and its making gaming a bit stale imo. and their consoles have the worst reliability ever, i was on my 3rd ps2 when i gave up on it.
the reason the ps2 was such a success was because everyone had one, chavs and all, many of the people who have them wont be able to afford a ps3 for quite a long time, so thier kind of killing themselves imo
 
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Eliot said:
and their consoles have the worst reliability ever, i was on my 3rd ps2 when i gave up on it.
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I was still on my original launch PS2 untill I PX'd it last week :)
 
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Eliot said:
ok sony arent killing it, and i apprieciate they made it mainstream and all that, but they have brought endless sequels and a lack of innovation along with it and its making gaming a bit stale imo. and their consoles have the worst reliability ever, i was on my 3rd ps2 when i gave up on it.
the reason the ps2 was such a success was because everyone had one, chavs and all, many of the people who have them wont be able to afford a ps3 for quite a long time, so thier kind of killing themselves imo
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Any the 360 has had great reliability hasn't it?

It is true that the PS2 has a lot of sequels and clones, and again, you get that a lot still on other consoles and the PC.

The problem is with that, games development is a huge industry at the moment, and if your game doesn't sell, you're going to annoy your publisher off quite a lot, and if you're a small company, it could end up causing it to go under, therefore we get games come out that aren't as innovotive as we'd like, and are more of the same good stuff we're used to. It's the same on PCs, but also the same on the movie industry too.
 
Eliot said:
ok sony arent killing it, and i apprieciate they made it mainstream and all that, but they have brought endless sequels and a lack of innovation along with it and its making gaming a bit stale imo.
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Did sony make those games? It seems a bit unfair to blame sony for endless sequels when for the vast majority of those games, the only part sony plays is supplying the hardware. Ok I'll admit the PS2 didn't really do anything new but it's still up to the developers to innovate.
 
deSade said:
Aren't these repeated arguments getting just a little bit tiresome?
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A little, but it's healthy debate and it's reasonably clean. When it gets personal and just out of control, it'll probably get closed.

These kinds of debates will never go away either, as once the PS3 is out, there will still be arguments about which is best yada yada yada etc. It's just the way of the console wars, they'll never end.
 
Ok, i can see what you mean when you say its not sonys fault, but imo the repetitive titles are there because sony them selves dont make there own games, i mean while its not sonys fault there console did bring on endles sequels of games and now in the days of, 'make a sequel and chuck it on every console' theres not very many New games out, with new genres and characters etc etc. but we have lots of street racing games where you pimp your car
 
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