Another GTA5 crashing

masscrazy · 18 May 2020 at 19:18

GTA5 has been crashing after like half hour/45mins. Whilst playing Anno 1800 or Assassin's Creed Odessy for over an hour there are no crashes.

PC: i7 3770k, GPU: 1080 Gaming X OC to +110 core clock, +200 memory, 16gb ram

This is during gaming and the green transparent line is after the crash.

Here is the Event Viewer logs - 5 events occur

18:27:51 Level: "Information"

Code:

Fault bucket 1356418058744535381, type 4
Event Name: APPCRASH
Response: Not available
Cab Id: 0

Problem signature:
P1: GTA5.exe
P2: 1.0.1868.1
P3: 5e7d0b1c
P4: GTA5.exe
P5: 1.0.1868.1
P6: 5e7d0b1c
P7: c0000005
P8: 00000000015b6238
P9:
P10:

Attached files:
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER2196.tmp.dmp
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER24A5.tmp.WERInternalMetadata.xml
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER24B5.tmp.xml
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER24C5.tmp.csv
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER24E5.tmp.txt

These files may be available here:
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\ReportArchive\AppCrash_GTA5.exe_a440e9f6ffcbab7f55afd72d0bad5868f6266d_a1a73d94_f082830a-026d-42fa-b733-508dd6246bab

Analysis symbol:
Rechecking for solution: 0
Report Id: 904193ff-3b5c-4c88-ae3f-abcad7873aad
Report Status: 268435456
Hashed bucket: 9baca810241ddca3b2d2f709ae649955
Cab Guid: 0

18:27:49 Level: "Error":

Code:

Faulting application name: GTA5.exe, version: 1.0.1868.1, time stamp: 0x5e7d0b1c
Faulting module name: GTA5.exe, version: 1.0.1868.1, time stamp: 0x5e7d0b1c
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x00000000015b6238
Faulting process ID: 0x3b94
Faulting application start time: 0x01d62d3505ce99f6
Faulting application path: E:\Rockstar games\Grand Theft Auto V\GTA5.exe
Faulting module path: E:\Rockstar games\Grand Theft Auto V\GTA5.exe
Report ID: 904193ff-3b5c-4c88-ae3f-abcad7873aad
Faulting package full name:
Faulting package-relative application ID:

18:27:02 Level: "Information":

Code:

Fault bucket , type 0
Event Name: LiveKernelEvent
Response: Not available
Cab Id: 0

Problem signature:
P1: 141
P2: ffffd98bac00f460
P3: fffff80674742610
P4: 0
P5: 2bc
P6: 10_0_18363
P7: 0_0
P8: 256_1
P9:
P10:

Attached files:
\\?\C:\Windows\LiveKernelReports\WATCHDOG\WATCHDOG-20200518-1826.dmp
\\?\C:\Windows\TEMP\WER-11096125-0.sysdata.xml
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER65C8.tmp.WERInternalMetadata.xml
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER65D9.tmp.xml
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER65D8.tmp.csv
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER65F8.tmp.txt

These files may be available here:
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\ReportArchive\Kernel_141_a826b0a2384d322525c95e87845159181ec505c_00000000_cab_2b69950a-ceab-4830-a48f-f77684c43acc

Analysis symbol:
Rechecking for solution: 0
Report Id: 2b69950a-ceab-4830-a48f-f77684c43acc
Report Status: 2049
Hashed bucket:
Cab Guid: 0

18:27:01 Level: "Information":

Code:

Fault bucket , type 0
Event Name: LiveKernelEvent
Response: Not available
Cab Id: 0

Problem signature:
P1: 141
P2: ffffd98bac00f460
P3: fffff80674742610
P4: 0
P5: 2bc
P6: 10_0_18363
P7: 0_0
P8: 256_1
P9:
P10:

Attached files:
\\?\C:\Windows\LiveKernelReports\WATCHDOG\WATCHDOG-20200518-1826.dmp
\\?\C:\Windows\TEMP\WER-11096125-0.sysdata.xml
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER65C8.tmp.WERInternalMetadata.xml
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER65D9.tmp.xml
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER65D8.tmp.csv
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER65F8.tmp.txt

These files may be available here:
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\ReportQueue\Kernel_141_a826b0a2384d322525c95e87845159181ec505c_00000000_2b69950a-ceab-4830-a48f-f77684c43acc

Analysis symbol:
Rechecking for solution: 0
Report Id: 2b69950a-ceab-4830-a48f-f77684c43acc
Report Status: 4
Hashed bucket:
Cab Guid: 0

18:27:00 Level: "Information":

Code:

The Desktop Window Manager has registered the session port.

Seems like an issue begins with Desktop Windows Manager? I am playing bordeless window. This seems to work best. Had issues with fullscreen.

Anyone have any ideas?

agnes · 18 May 2020 at 20:36

So, first things first, have you tested your GPU OC recently and have you tested the game without said OC for more than a couple of hours? That would be my first port of call, all it takes on that engine is a couple of core errors and it crashes. And I know, if all other games run fine, why not this? It's very common, it just takes the engine crying about a couple of errors.

Run OCCT GPU stress test (shaders x8) and see if you get errors after 1 hour.

Secondly, have you ran memtest recently?

The 0xc0000005 is a very generic access error, this could be a bad file state or as mentioned above, a faulty memory stick. You mention this normally happens after a x amount of time, it's possible the caching fails in the engine due to a memory error.

Lastly, a good ol' reinstall of the game as well as a driver sweep and reinstall?

KungFuSpaghetti · 18 May 2020 at 20:42

I had the same issue, try enabling vsync in game

masscrazy · 18 May 2020 at 21:00

Will try those 3 options.

I've gone down the route of troubleshooting the Event Viewer warning to do with runtimebroker.exe. However these warning are apparently OK?

There are several other possibilities like now using AIO with Kraken g12, memory overheating, also the riser cable, also the overclock.

However none are apparent with other games.

Anyway will return with some findings

masscrazy · 18 May 2020 at 22:04

Update:

Run OCCT full res, shaderx8 - over an hour, no errors.

agnes · 18 May 2020 at 22:41

masscrazy said:
Update:

Run OCCT full res, shaderx8 - over an hour, no errors.

Hmmm, still wouldn't hurt to try without an overclock on GPU just incase GTA 5 is being funny.

Shy of that, maybe try as the KungFu said, enable full screen vsync? Even if it's not what you want, just tinker with options to see what gives you stability to work backwards from.

KungFuSpaghetti · 18 May 2020 at 22:50

It worked for me and is a known fix.

azazl187 · 19 May 2020 at 07:05

Some games are much more sensitive to an overclock than others. Eg I can run COD on my max OC for hours but BF4 will crash after 10 mins.

If I lower the OC on the gpu the game runs without an issue.

Try putting the GPU at stock settings and see what happens.

masscrazy · 19 May 2020 at 11:19

azazl187 said:
Some games are much more sensitive to an overclock than others. Eg I can run COD on my max OC for hours but BF4 will crash after 10 mins.

If I lower the OC on the gpu the game runs without an issue.

Try putting the GPU at stock settings and see what happens.

Think you're right!!

I clocked it down from +125mhz to +110 and it seems stable. Ramped up the quality settings and frames have reduced a little (trying to push the card) and reducing the clock speed (alt tabbing out of the game) and +110mhz seems to be fine!!!

When refresh rate is 115mhz matching my monitor, the GPU is utilised 99% constantly, have the gaming running for last two hours and no issues. I noticed on persistent +95% gpu utilisation the game would crash.

Final speeds are 2088mhz core and 5215mhz memory.

Thanks all!!

Though, the GPU never goes over 45C the case is toasty inside lol

azazl187 · 19 May 2020 at 19:38

masscrazy said:
Think you're right!!

I clocked it down from +125mhz to +110 and it seems stable. Ramped up the quality settings and frames have reduced a little (trying to push the card) and reducing the clock speed (alt tabbing out of the game) and +110mhz seems to be fine!!!

When refresh rate is 115mhz matching my monitor, the GPU is utilised 99% constantly, have the gaming running for last two hours and no issues. I noticed on persistent +95% gpu utilisation the game would crash.

Final speeds are 2088mhz core and 5215mhz memory.

Thanks all!!

Though, the GPU never goes over 45C the case is toasty inside lol

Im glad you got it sorted. Welcome to overclocking

agnes · 19 May 2020 at 20:23

Well done mate! As I and others have said, some engines run in very different ways despite being based upon the same API's of DirectX. If ever I get game crashes, I remove my OC's and test, 9 times out of 10 it's just the game being silly and not liking the higher frequencies.

masscrazy · 20 May 2020 at 09:26

Thank! So I had the game running for about 4 hours in a dense part of the scene, 99% usage with dynamic environment (on a bike by some tree and traffic). And no crashes.

5 hours later started the game and within 5mins crashed.

Restarted and no crash for few hours.

I'm cool with that, but must be a GTA thing. But much happier with stable enough overclock.

Side note, overclocked gpu by 60mhz and 100mhz on i7 3770k with two Krakens x63 on CPU and x53 on GPU and damn my room gets hot and the inside of the case is toasty!! Had the PC for 8 years though

masscrazy · 21 May 2020 at 22:26

Underwood1988 said:
I think your PC has very low characteristics for this game.

Is that a underhanded passive agressive dig at my PC!!!!

LOOL

I know, but its decent, I get like 50-60fps 99% GPU usage and similar CPU usage. Mostly 'very high' settings.

I'm playing the waiting game, i'd love the new CPUs 7nm high performance low power, the i5 10600k looks wicked, but high TDP and watching for Ryzen 4k.

Once that ryzen 4k is out and clarity on LGA1200/pcie4, I'll bite and upgrade!!

agnes · 22 May 2020 at 06:20

Underwood1988 said:
I think your PC has very low characteristics for this game.

His build is fine for GTA 5... i7-3770k OC'd, 1080 OC'd... That's still on par with todays mid specs.

The 1080 comes out the same performance give or take as a 2060 super. The CPU could certainly do with an upgrade, I'll give you that, but even then, a capable gaming rig.