Another school shooting in the US

.Griff. · 14 Dec 2012 at 17:45

Not much news yet but apparently 27 people killed by gunman in Connecticut school.

Edit - Sandy Hook Elementary School

Ricochet J · 14 Dec 2012 at 17:45

I wonder what the NRA have to say about all of these mass shootings.

The part in the Second Amendment about "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" really needs to be removed.

Robbo · 14 Dec 2012 at 17:47

It's an elementary school and at least 14 of the dead (27 confirmed) are children. Awful.

This will just keep happening, it has to stop.

Rich_L · 14 Dec 2012 at 17:49

If they removed the age restrictions and allowed 5 year olds to carry guns, this would never have happened. :mad:

cymatty · 14 Dec 2012 at 17:51

As terrible as this is banning guns wont help, if someone wants kill on a mass scale they will.

Security at China's schools has been increased in recent years following a spate of similar knife attacks in which nearly 20 children have been killed.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-20723910

Malevolence · 14 Dec 2012 at 17:52

The news (CNN) I have on says only 3 dead, with one being the alleged shooter.

Cosimo · 14 Dec 2012 at 17:52

This is just terrible.

.Griff. · 14 Dec 2012 at 17:54

Malevolence said:
The news I have on says only 3 dead, with one being the alleged shooter.

"CBS News reporting 27 killed including 14 children in Conn school shooting”

"Connecticut newspaper Hartford Courant reporting one entire classroom is unaccounted for at #Newtown school. As many as 18 children dead"

mranderson · 14 Dec 2012 at 17:54

Not sure why it happens mostly in the States. I am sure they have more guns in the middle East or other countries.

Sui · 14 Dec 2012 at 18:00

What the, I'm sure I read this article earlier and it said that only one person had been killed and that was the gunman and that security had been increased across the area. Guess they reported it wrong?

estebanrey · 14 Dec 2012 at 18:02

cymatty said:
As terrible as this is banning guns wont help, if someone wants kill on a mass scale they will.

Funny then how these mass killings occur far more in gun loving America than anywhere else though....

elmuzzy66. · 14 Dec 2012 at 18:03

mranderson said:
Not sure why it happens mostly in the States. I am sure they have more guns in the middle East or other countries.

Well they do tend to use bombs but they blow up in market or square before getting to the school

Craig321 · 14 Dec 2012 at 18:04

Malevolence said:
The news (CNN) I have on says only 3 dead, with one being the alleged shooter.

There's a more up to date stream on http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nbc-connecticut

cymatty · 14 Dec 2012 at 18:04

estebanrey said:
Funny then how these mass killings occur far more in gun loving America than anywhere else though....

Country Guns per 100residents
United States 88.8
Serbia 58.2
Yemen 54.8
Switzerland 45.7
Cyprus 36.4
Saudi Arabia 35
Iraq 34.2
Finland 32
Uruguay 31.8
Sweden 31.6
Norway 31.3
France 31.2
Canada 30.8
Austria 30.4
Germany 30.3
Iceland 30.3

If guns are the issue, explain the lack of school shootings in these countries.

physichull · 14 Dec 2012 at 18:06

It seems like every month or so there seems to be a shooting somewhere in the US, be it a school, a cinema or a shopping mall.

The US government is just so impotent on this issue given the gun culture in the US that has existing for a long time (centuries). It's just completely embedded in the way of life. It's almost impossible to get rid of guns and so incidents like this will just keep on happening.

kwerk · 14 Dec 2012 at 18:07

Wild speculation but from whats known about the school I'm guessing Asian male shooter with a child at the school.

eta: by asian I mean chinese/korean.

estebanrey · 14 Dec 2012 at 18:08

cymatty said:
Country Guns per 100residents
United States 88.8
Serbia 58.2
Yemen 54.8
Switzerland 45.7
Cyprus 36.4
Saudi Arabia 35
Iraq 34.2
Finland 32
Uruguay 31.8
Sweden 31.6
Norway 31.3
France 31.2
Canada 30.8
Austria 30.4
Germany 30.3
Iceland 30.3

If guns are the issue, explain the lack of school shootings in these countries.

If guns (in a combination with US society) isn't the issue, explain how the country with the most guns also has the most school shootings?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shooting#Notable_school_shootings

elmarko · 14 Dec 2012 at 18:10

cymatty said:
Country Guns per 100residents
United States 88.8
Serbia 58.2
Yemen 54.8
Switzerland 45.7
Cyprus 36.4
Saudi Arabia 35
Iraq 34.2
Finland 32
Uruguay 31.8
Sweden 31.6
Norway 31.3
France 31.2
Canada 30.8
Austria 30.4
Germany 30.3
Iceland 30.3

If guns are the issue, explain the lack of school shootings in these countries.

It's actually very simple.

A combination of guns & gross wealth inequality along with poor provisions for mental illness is the main cause.

In short, don't give stupid miserable unhappy poor people guns.

It's much easier (And cheaper) to just remove the guns than it is to fix social problems.

cymatty · 14 Dec 2012 at 18:11

estebanrey said:
If guns (in a combination with US society) isn't the issue, explain how the country with the most guns also has the most school shootings?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shooting#Notable_school_shootings

Guns are the tool to do the job. You think if they banned guns that the nut jobs would not explosives, knifes, axes or whatever.

PMKeates · 14 Dec 2012 at 18:11

cymatty said:
Country Guns per 100residents
United States 88.8
Serbia 58.2
Yemen 54.8
Switzerland 45.7
Cyprus 36.4
Saudi Arabia 35
Iraq 34.2
Finland 32
Uruguay 31.8
Sweden 31.6
Norway 31.3
France 31.2
Canada 30.8
Austria 30.4
Germany 30.3
Iceland 30.3

If guns are the issue, explain the lack of school shootings in these countries.

Iraq is such a model...

Guns per 100 residents does not tell you anywhere near the full picture. Read up on why the Swiss have so many guns, for example.

Another school shooting in the US

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