Any Advice on trying to join the RAF ?

eddie do you get to travel much? ever been based outside of the uk, an whats the initial training curve like, you must see new recruits coming into the ranks any advice there? you say that it is high profile? want to explain a bit more there?

Travel really depends on where you end up being posted and what job you're doing there. For example guys on Tactical Supply Wing generally spend 6 to 9 months a year away on various exercises and deployments, whereas someone working at a main operating base with aircraft not currently involved in operations may only go away on one 2-3 week exercise a year. The 4+ month deployments to Afghan/Falklands etc are separate and work on a 2.5 turn around (you'll go roughly 2.5 years after you got back from your last one). But to give you a rough idea, I've spent most of my 11 years working on aircraft squadrons and other jobs directly involved with their support, and I've done just under 500 days overseas. That includes Afghanistan (and other) deployments which are generally 4 months (about 123 days) each, as well as a fair few 2-3 weeks exercises in various places. Most exercises and shorter deployments are arranged by your local management so it's easy to volunteer for as many as you want. You can also volunteer for operational deployments it you'd like to go away more often.

Basic trade training is exactly that, it gives you the very basic knowledge and understanding you need. Most of your training will happen on the job at your first unit. I do see plenty of newbies coming through, I've got one under my wing at the moment and the best advice I could give is listen to the guys who've been in for longer than you have, regardless of age. Something I've seen over the years is that older guys join up and struggle when guys 5 years or more younger than them are giving them tasks and or teaching them. Avoid that and you'll do fine. Also just make sure you put the effort in when it comes to learning jobs you've not done, and never be afraid to ask seemingly stupid questions.

By high profile I refer to the fact that you may find yourself dealing directly with high ranking officers and MoD civil servants on a regular basis, as well as doing a job which directly affects the ability of the RAF to provide air power. Basically if you don't do your job properly, aircraft don't fly.

My job at the moment is managing/storing/delivering and managing the repair process for all Typhoon avionics and major mechanical components including the classified assets. It's a bit of office work, a bit of warehouse some delivery driving and a lot of dealing with British Aerospace and other contractors. It's far more involved and varied than I could really explain via this medium to be honest, to some degree because without a working knowledge of the trade many aspects of it would be hard for you to appreciate. It's also a shift work job, as are many parts of supply, although there are also plenty of day jobs if that's what you want. I'm on nights this week, which is 1600 - 0230.

The thing to remember of course, is that you don't choose your job and then stay there unlike in the civi world. You will spend around 2 years (on average) in a job before moving somewhere else (while staying at the same unit). You simply join the trade and can do any job whatsoever within it at any time during your career, if you can bored in one job you can just ask to move somewhere else. In addition every 4-6 years you'll be posted to a new base so everything will change again, and all the while you'll be doing deployments on which you'll do different jobs again.

Oh and Movers are just the people who weren't good enough to be suppliers ;). But in all seriousness, they spend most of there time just loading freight onto aircraft (C-17, Hercules etc). They do spend a lot of time away, but always doing the same job and they are also pretty much limited to RAF Brize Norton and Lyneham.
 
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No offence to Eddie182 but with my encounters of working with suppliers all they seem to do is stack shelfs (granted I haven't yet worked with them out of area) where as moves always seem to be doing something abit more interesting!

Speak to the AFCO they can advise you better than we can over the internet :) - However we will do our best

Good luck!
 
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No offence to Eddie182 but with my encounters of working with suppliers all they seem to do is stack shelfs (granted I haven't yet worked with them out of area) where as moves always seem to be doing something abit more interesting!

Indeed, that's what people outside the trade see us doing, however it is in fact only a very small aspect of the trade. It's just that the areas of supply other trades visit are the general warehouse areas.

And incidentally, us suppliers can also qualify to do aspects of the movements job and at Main Operating Bases both trades are on the same Squadron (Supply and Movements or Logistics Sqn). In fact Supply and Movements trade are both Trade group 18 (with Supply being 18A and movements 18B ;))

Speak to the AFCO they can advise you better than we can over the internet :) - However we will do our best

Good luck!

o rly, you think do ya. PMSL
 
Hmmm yeh maby you are right - unless you get a supply/movements person to speak to maby we are your best port of call afterall :p

I understand what you mean about people not understanding your trade. People seem to thing we just fix computers and answer the phone all day! (well maby at the moment but just wait until i get posted!!)

Do they have supplies on JHSU? (Joint heli support unit)

Where are you based at the moment?
 
I understand what you mean about people not understanding your trade. People seem to thing we just fix computers and answer the phone all day! (well maby at the moment but just wait until i get posted!!)

Ah, are you a peanut then?

Do they have supplies on JHSU? (Joint heli support unit)

I don't believe so, we have TSW for that. Who have to go pretty much everywhere JHSU go. Someone has to bring the fuel after all.

Where are you based at the moment?

Coningsby. Home of the mighty 'phoon.
 
I have been in the Raf for 14 years. I,m an engineer working at Brize Norton though dont really know much about supply other than they are crap at uckers .:D. I have been posted all over the Uk and travelled to most places in the world so if you want any general advice i can help. When i joined up you just swore on the bible did some incredibly simple tests and signed your life away, I joined with no GCSE,s or anything just willing to serve....:D
 
Ah, are you a peanut then?
Coningsby. Home of the mighty 'phoon.

Nononononon not a peanut. Im a true TG4 (They joined the techs TG3 with peanuts TG11 to make ICT Techs TG4 = me)

When I get back i'm going to try for a posting and that is one of the places i;d like to go :)
 
Heya,

I have 2 Friends that are currently training within the RAF. I'm actually very interested in going the RAF route myself, but feel afraid that my lack of direction will be a bad sign if I go to one of the recruitment centres. I really don't know which career path to pick; there are so many within each 'area'.

I have university experience up to Science Foundation Year, which is basically a 3-A level equivalent, and I have tried studying Geography/Geology and Biomedical Sciences at two different Universities without success. My unsuccessfulness is mainly because I dropped out due to changing my mind, or simply not having the drive.

I really, really need direction - something with goals, routine and order/discipline - and I think the RAF would be able to provide me with all three. Indeed, I'm naive and don't know all the details at the moment, but I will endeavour to find them out.

I'd love to do something that gives me a purpose, allows me to live on base rather than civilian accommodation and has a lot of deployment in different countries, but not necessarily in a role that involves fighting. I wouldn't mind something medical based, either.

Can anyone tell me if going to the recruitment centre with no real 'idea' - per se - of exactly what I want to do within the RAF will hinder my ability to join at all in the near future?

P.s. Sorry for 'hi-jacking' the thread, but I didn't want to start a whole new one about the RAF :)

Regards,
Brian.
 
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Nononononon not a peanut. Im a true TG4 (They joined the techs TG3 with peanuts TG11 to make ICT Techs TG4 = me)

When I get back i'm going to try for a posting and that is one of the places i;d like to go :)

Ahhh, you're one of 'them'. My best mate/brother in law is a former TG3 EL Tech, so I here plently of bleating about you guys ;).
 
Can anyone tell me if going to the recruitment centre with no real 'idea' - per se - of exactly what I want to do within the RAF will hinder my ability to join at all in the near future?



Regards,
Brian.

Not at all, if you just pop along to your nearest AFCO and ask for some information on what trades are currently recruiting it'll be a good starting point for you to then do your research and decide what (if anything) would suit you. I would strees however don't get suckered in by the Army/Navy which can and does happen to people not really sure what they want from the forces.

And also if one of the recruiters tells you not to worry about joining x trade as you can change if you don't like it don't believe a word of it. While you 'can' in theory change trades after you've completed training, it's very, very difficult to do and doesn't happen very often at all.

Basically, look on the RAF Careers website/get leaflets from the AFCO and just make sure you get as much informations as you can about any and eah trade that interests you before choosing.
 
I sent off an email to my local AFCO; hopefully they can provide me with some more information.

"To whom it may concern,

I'm very interested in joining the RAF but, admittedly, I don't know exactly which route I would like to take. Could you possibly
provide me with some information regarding which trades currently have recruitment vacancies? For guidance, I hold 8 GCSE's A-C and
a 3 A-Level equivalent qualification - an access to higher education - known as a Science Foundation.

I appreciate your time reading this email and I hope you can help. If you require any other information, please do not hesitate to contact me.

Regards,

Brian *****"
 
Get down your local RAF careers office. They would be the best people to talk to first.

Negative.

AFCO staff feed you tripe to get you interested. Best way is arrange a visit to a base and chat to some guys really in the RAF doing a job you aim to do :)
 
I don't see why people don't just go into their local AFCO.

Fair enough if you work all day every day, or you live in the sticks.

Like the online application for example, it's pointless, if you do it you need to go in and do it again basically
 
I don't see why people don't just go into their local AFCO.

Fair enough if you work all day every day, or you live in the sticks.

Like the online application for example, it's pointless, if you do it you need to go in and do it again basically

MY AFCO is a 20 minute 3 mile run away; literally.
 
I don't see why people don't just go into their local AFCO.

Fair enough if you work all day every day, or you live in the sticks.

Like the online application for example, it's pointless, if you do it you need to go in and do it again basically

I'd say go to the AFCO to enquire about applying but don't go there for any advice on jobs and opinions. Recuiters are put in those places to fill slots; they'll push you towards trades that need filling and gloss over the crap elements of the role and sex up the good parts.
 
I don't see why people don't just go into their local AFCO.

Fair enough if you work all day every day, or you live in the sticks.

Like the online application for example, it's pointless, if you do it you need to go in and do it again basically

The AFCO is not nessesarily the best source of information, the guys working in them will only truly know about their own trade and will be pretty much getting their information on others from the same sources you can read yourself.

It's always better to do you own research first, and go to the AFCO knowing what you want to do. It's also far more impressive to walk into the AFCO with a good knowledge of the Airforce and the trade(s) you are intested in rather than just walking in and saying I want to join the RAF, what do you think I should do. I mean would you do the latter to any civillian employer?
 
If you know what area you want to know more about they will tell you, they won't just push you to something else.

I suppose i walked in and I knew which direction I wanted to go, so they never tried to fill their quota.
 
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