Any bass guitarists here?

The reason I'm confused though is that I don't need to generate big volume. I'm only playing at home. I thought an amp and big speaker cabinet was to generate big volume eg for a stage.

If I play a YouTube video of someone playing bass out of my TV, it sounds good. That doesn't have a 12" speaker or massive tube amps powering it.

I don't want to have to plug it into my computer and modify the sounds, that is effects and I just want to learn to play the bass without all that extra stuff for now. Plus my pc is upstairs and I want to practice downstairs in my living room. That is where my digital piano and home stereo are, both have in built amps and line in capability.
The issue here is that what you hear through the TV probably colours the sound a lot, and has a lot of frequencies missing.

Plugging it into your computer to modify the sounds isn't just effects. You will need some kind of amp sim to get even moderately close to the sounds you're hearing on YouTube videos etc. All bass sounds you hear on recordings, from live concerts, all that, has passed through an amp (and likely a cab) which all colour the sound in some way. You don't need to be adding modulation effects, you just need the sound of an amp. If you want cheap, look at the Zoom B1four, and pick one up secondhand if you can. This is a cheap modelling unit that is more than enough for when you're starting out. You can then take the line out from this unit and plug it into somewhere - be that your TV, digital piano etc.

Also, don't expect to be slapping like davie504 for a while - slap is a very hard technique to master. I've played bass for close to 20 years and I'm still awful at it, though in fairness I don't often try and brush up my technique :p
 
and has a lot of frequencies missing

I do understand that to really thump the room I would need big subwoofer type speakers to move a lot of air, and so a lot of amp power. But bass from a TV, hell even watching that video above on my phone which has what a 3mm speaker, still sounds good.

So the unit you suggested, the zoom b1 four, is some sort of pre amp? Are you also saying that all recorded sound is pre-processed somehow, none of it is raw instrument sound?
 
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Instrument amps aren't clean like hifi. Even playing a 'clean tone' they're still changing the sound in some way:
* pre tube stages change the tone and add harmonics, most have some form of large signal compression due to the power rail 'droop'
* power tube stages operate at full, providing extra harmonics and often with a large signal add compression due to larger power rail droop
* the output transformer at saturation will impart some sound, with single ended adding a warm second harmonic but the normal push-pull for power causing a cancellation of some even but adding odd harmonics. With proper tube amps, the tubes see the speaker load through the transformer and so changing the speaker changes the load on the output power tubes - changing the sound.
* the speaker changes the tones - these are a subject to themselves, as the material, the notes, the spider support etc all impart sound changes. If you run small speakers you're going to get a very different sound to a large speaker, but it's all about trade offs - what works and does it for you.. won't for someone else. Some people hate metal cones (fast accurate but impart high end frequency) but prefer the softer tone of paper and large for shifting air.
* the feedback (negative normally) changes the response etc
* the cabinet the speakers sit in can change the frequency response, the defraction of multiple speakers is an aberration for example that needs careful planning and trade off.
* finally the instrument and the pedals
* all of the above can modify the frequency response (ie low to high string and what comes out may be attenuated or boosted without even using the tone controls or EQ), and it's all inter-related

The issue is the subject is soo large, that people spend fortunes tracking down the precise gear to sound like Eddie Van Halen or other famous bands. A modelling amp or a modelling amp program will get you 60-75% there but that last 25% is where it becomes an obsession. Start somewhere and don't get stuck in analysis, then iterate towards your goal and stop before it becomes and obsession :D

So far I've only built my own tube amps, digital stuff and built small speakers but from that I've learn that there's way more than I could master in a lifetime.
 
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This is what I want it to sound like. Obviously I won't be able to play like this for years if ever, but if this guy came to my house and I was providing the equipment for him, what would I have to provide to get it to sound like this?

I can't hear it at work but I can imagine what it sounds like.
At the very basics you will need some type of bass guitar effects unit which will have amp/speaker simulations plus graphic equalisers etc to get you close.
This is without going into the bass guitar and strings you use but with a pedal you will get close to satisfy your needs.

Like NickK says above, I have 3 semi pro bass players on my Timeline who never shut up about gear and constantly buying new gear to get 'the sound'.
They are also trying to crack 'the sound' for different genres so at the press of a button want to be Jon Entwistle and then Mark King and then Lemmy etc.
I do know that the Line 6 HX Stomp is in the armoury of all 3.

One more thing, you must have a music shop near you, go in and tell them you want to make that sound on You Tube at a low volume for as less money as you can and you have no plans to ever play on stage with a band.
 
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Tomorrow my bass player will be coming up to go over some new songs and through my Soundblaster we will put his bass and my guitar & keyboards through a pair of 5" speakers connected to my PC.
What model of Soundblaster card do you use for this please?

I've just bought a Soundblaster AE-7 and looking to see what else I can do with it besides Games. Own guitars and a bass too.
 
What model of Soundblaster card do you use for this please?

I've just bought a Soundblaster AE-7 and looking to see what else I can do with it besides Games. Own guitars and a bass too.

I bought it from the Creative site
Sound BlasterX G6 (B-Stock) £74.99

There are two leads coming out of my Helix which go into the G6 on a splitter cable, the other identical lead goes to my keyboards.
It works quite well for in the house.
The middle lead goes to the PC speakers.
Red lead is the USB.

Your AE-7 should be way better so just get the leads.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B094W5LJK5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (not available now but you get the idea).

SoundBlasterXG6.jpg
 
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I'd prefer to buy what I need upfront really. Or, if I need too much expensive stuff to make it sound right, then I might not even start.

When I had a guitar I did plug it into the piano, and it worked, but it didn't sound right. I don't know why and I can't explain it very well, but it didn't sound like an electric guitar should sound. I could play the notes of course, but it sounded more like an acoustic guitar, more twangy.


This is what I want it to sound like. Obviously I won't be able to play like this for years if ever, but if this guy came to my house and I was providing the equipment for him, what would I have to provide to get it to sound like this?

it says in the description of the video what he's using :) ....

"I recorded the bass with an Ebs Microbass II DI into a Focusrite pro 24 audio interface into my pc, no fx were used, just an Ebs Multicomp Compressor."



so all the above, plus the bass guitar! I reckon you'd be happy with any interface and an amp sim...

here's a short video using a cheap M-Audio M-Track Solo interface and Amplitube 5, first the 'direct' sound (pretty much what it would sound like if you just plugged a bass in to your speakers/piano etc) then with the amp sim and some effects, you can mess about with the sound in Amplitube etc until your heart's content...


 
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looks like the 'EDB Microbass II" he uses was released at least 16 years ago, when I googled it it showed forum posts from 2007!

I wonder if that's what gives that bright but still deep tone, how much is fresh strings etc
 
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