Any reason to not get a 5D?

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Currently on a 350D but I'm starting to feel the limitations compared with a friends 5D. Most of my shots are in low light conditions and even with a F/1.4 30mm and 50mm the quality of the 5D over the 350D has given me the itch.

I'm able to pick up one for £1460 new from the UK not including the cashback offer.

Is there any reason not to buy now - New model round the corner for example?
 
The 1D Mk III! ;)

Only kidding. The 5D is due an upgrade an some point but no-one knows when that will be but it is expected to be after the 30D is upgraded so don't expect it soon (personally I think it will be Q1 2008).

I assume you understand the crop factor and what difference that makes to your focal lengths?

Another factor to consider is that being full frame it will show up any failings in your lenses a lot more than a cropped camera. For example, the 100-400 L IS (a great lens for cropped cameras) doesn't perform as well on a 5D.

If you are all prepared on the lens front them go for it!
 
Buy a second hand 1DS MK1 to really upset your friend :D :p

The 5D is better at handling noise though, it seems...
 
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Do it, I love mine :D It's everything a camera should be.

If you have the thought in your mind you aren't going to be happy until you have one ;)
 
starscream said:
Is there any reason not to buy now - New model round the corner for example?
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No reason not to buy one, but you'll be junking that Sigma 30mm and it'll need replacing.

Seeing as you're shooting at roughly 50mm with that at the moment (48mm to be precise), you can say that your 50mm f/1.4 is a direct replacement for that. So that just leaves you needing something around the 80mm mark, assuming you need the same focal lengths.
 
There are only 2 reasons not to buy a 5D.

1 - You can't afford one.

2 - New model due sometime in next year.

Neither of which detracts from the fact that the 5D is a simply awesome camera. Worthy of particular note is its low light performance. It has to be the best performing camera available in terms of high ISO noise, or lack of it.
 
Yeah, the photographers at work have 1D mk2's but regardless of money, I would rather have a 5D.

I can afford it, but it is a lot of money to me, so I would just like to be sure there isn't a price drop round the corner if it is replaced by a new model.
 
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Seeing as you're shooting at roughly 50mm with that at the moment (48mm to be precise), you can say that your 50mm f/1.4 is a direct replacement for that. So that just leaves you needing something around the 80mm mark, assuming you need the same focal lengths.
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Yup, will be selling the 30mm and getting an 85mm.
 
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Yeah, the photographers at work have 1D mk2's but regardless of money, I would rather have a 5D.
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Different beasts, surely?

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I can afford it, but it is a lot of money to me, so I would just like to be sure there isn't a price drop round the corner if it is replaced by a new model.
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I can't see the price coming down any more than it already has. Buy one. Now.
 
Lots it seems!

I doubt it will be Q1 2008 for it's replacement!

It's the best pro consumer camera on the market, bar none.

The 1DSmk2 is becoming an old camera.. editorial/sports agencies are not replacing them like for like either so pros are starting to leave them sales wise. The lack of a new replacement is causing a few to snap up lucrative deals with Nikon or go for the mk3. (I've heard of nikon/agents of offering huge discount on cameras/lens if they trade in similar canon gear, so they are trying to get new sales, but it seems flood the market with used equipment-nice!)

A lot of Paps in London I noticed had 5D's on asking them it was for the noise and skin tones. Some had already been using the 1DSmk2. Studio photographers still believe in the 1DSmk2 so there is still a market out there for it.. but if your a real pro studio photographer you have a medium format.
 
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MajorPart said:
The 1DSmk2 is becoming an old camera.. editorial/sports agencies are not replacing them like for like either so pros are starting to leave them sales wise. The lack of a new choise is causing a few to snap up lucratice deals with Nikon or go for the mk3
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I don't understand this at all. There's nothing in 35mm that can touch the 1Ds Mk II and there certainly isn't a Mk III.

Are you sure you're not getting mixed up with the 1D Mark II N and Mark III?
 
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I don't understand this at all. There's nothing in 35mm that can touch the 1Ds Mk II and there certainly isn't a Mk III.

Are you sure you're not getting mixed up with the 1D Mark II N and Mark III?
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I'm not mixed up, I meant the 1d mk3, some agencies are replacing staffers 1DSmk2 for 1Dmk3's! Studio and Commercial are moving to reducing prices of the DigiBack Med Format instead of the 1DSmk2 (these are the biggest markets for this camera)

Even When i worked for the local rag it was 1dsmk2's they gave out but now it's the Nikon D2 variants they are getting. I personally do not see why the switch to Nikon but money must be a big factor especially before they are willing to right off/trade in lenses etc etc.
 
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I'm not sure.. but that is the trend. The 5D in certain circumstances can be a better camera than the 1DSmk2 but it's limited. Th Nikons also have limited advantages but the best all pro camera is the 1DSmk2.

The only reason i personally have not went for a 1DSmk2 was price. They are cheaper now than when i decided not to so you'd think the big users would be considering buying more of them not getting rid or not replacing them like for like.

It has been suggested to me that the 1DSmk2 will stop shipping pretty soon. This was from a Getty staffer just last night in fact.
 
Sorry, that all sounded very aggressive didn't it? Completely unintentionally towards you, Major. I'm just a bit baffled about the crossing of codes with the 1D and 1Ds.

So what do you do to require a 1Ds, and how do you have insider knowledge? Are you able/willing to share? And will there be pictures, mother?
 
I am currently a photographer working for myself with a studio. Been doing a good bit of work for oil companies in the North Sea of late. When i lived in London a few years ago i worked as a freelancer as bascally a pap.
Used to work as a photojourno and wedding photographer up here in Scotland but got bored of the crap and pay really.. Due to my ties with the RAF (served with them) I recently traveled to Afghanistan for a week to get a few images over there and want to do that sort of thing again sometime!
A lot of the guys I qualified and worked with have moved to the big cities to work for Getty/AP etc. So i tend to find out the camera goss. Like one of the reasons the 1DMK3 was so delayed was the unprecedented demand from photo agencies (who have first dibs) for stock after they did their pre-release testing.
I was at the Di concert last night with the wife just as a "concert goer" but got to speak to a few friends that were working in and outside of the venue.. thats where i caught some of the goss about the 1DSmk2 not being all that popular of late. I saw a few of them but i also saw a good few mk3's and nikons! Make of that what you wish (in the last few years at most concerts/non sporting events photographers would have been mostly all equipped with 1dsmk2's)

Mostly using a 5D as my 1DN2 died awhile ago, have a mk3 on order (still!) and use a 30D for when i need a 1.6x :)
I've used a 1DSmk2 for a considerable amount of time over the years, although never actually owned one, thats the problem I'd use one, but for the lack of benefits over a 5D I'd find it hard to justify the cost when i could order two 1Dmk3's for the same price, buy another two 5D's or even get a MF digiBack for slightly more.
 
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