Anybody else here that loves tools...?

Gav said:
grip-tite are better. Snap-on, Mac etc do their own variations on this....

The difference is that these grip on the flat of the nut/bolt rather than the corners. This stops them from becoming rounded and even makes it possible to remove fasteners with severely damaged heads.
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Sealey call theirs Walldrive. Seriously impressive ability to get the rounded stuff off and never needed to hammer it on to get it over the mangled bits :D
 
anyone know if you can get a 3/8" drive angle gauge?

i tried all the normal places and had no luck.

all 1/2. could get an adaptor but that seems a bit ghay.
 
the long and short of it is, a 6 pointer applies the turn force via the flat surfaces of hexagon

a 12 point applies the turn force via the corners of the hexagons, the force being applied to a smaller area so on a less than perfect bolt, they are more prone to rounding the said bolt

as for halfords kits... the deeps and the 1/4 drives... wow fantastic. now you have to buy an impact socket set

why not just buy a proper socket set to start with?

the only sockets ive had to replace were because i lost them

jaybee said:
Hard to explain without really experiencing it yourself. Essentially, pretend it was possible to have a "useable" socket with over 100 "sides" it would obviously be practically a circle internally. i.e. There are so many "sides" they are hard to even make out as sides and it seems internally almost like a smooth circular socket. This would obviously provide poor grip on the corner pieces or each side of the nut you were trying to grip (the bits it comes into contact with) as such a small area of the nut and socket are touching/gripping.
In such situations as this, even with a 12 sided socket, sometimes on stubborn nuts/bolts the socket can literally slip and keep turning past the edges/corners of the sides of the nut/bolt or whatever you are turning.

If you can imagine the other simple extreme. Say you had a 6 sided nut, and a 6 sided socket both 10mm. There is no better alternative. The socket perfectly aligns its sides to the sides of the nut and maximizes its contact/grip/friction on it as shape to shape, it aligns and is a very strong "bond" if you like.

Or another analogy. Imagine trying to undo a triangular shaped nut with a "normal" hexagonal socket. Would be pretty poor as would only grip at the 3 extreme corners of the triangle assuming you got the right sized socket. Best to get a proper triangular shaped socket.

Hope I explained that well. Not to say that those types of sockets ar ebad, they are convenient as they maximize the chance of finding a socket that fits odd sizes all be it not always perfectly.
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Defcon5 said:
This thread needs more pictures of tools
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I ain't posting up pics of my tool!!! :eek:

Matt82 said:
a 12 point applies the turn force via the corners of the hexagons, the force being applied to a smaller area so on a less than perfect bolt, they are more prone to rounding the said bolt
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True to an extent but using a 12 point socket on a 12 point bolt gives plenty of turning power.

Not that you see many 12 point bolts these days.........
 
a lot of hub nuts, ive found
clutch pressure plate bolts
cranks

im sure there are more, but somone just asked me something work related and i forgot the other 12 sided bolts

they are useful, but theyre few and far between
 
I have loads of bits, pretty sure I have everying I could ever need to take a engine into individual components. Most is drapper as they come with lifetime warrenty and not had one break on me yet
 
Is the Advanced Professional 120 piece Socket Set Halfords sell a good starting point for someone just starting their collection! I saw its on special offer at the minute and was wondering if its worth the cash
 
mattyj1085 said:
Is the Advanced Professional 120 piece Socket Set Halfords sell a good starting point for someone just starting their collection! I saw its on special offer at the minute and was wondering if its worth the cash
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No wait for the 150pc kit to come down in price, it was £99 just before xmas.
 
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