Anyone else excited about BBX?

Yas786 said:
Im pretty pumped for the new BB10, its no longer called BBX;)
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Ooops! :D Any mods able to change the title?

Caged said:
Well the only reason BlackBerry's of the past had good battery life was because they had tiny screens and anaemic processors, not because RIM were performing crazy voodoo magic. So don't get your hopes up.
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That is true, but it's also because they were willing to build a phone that wasn't thin enough to fit in a hipster's skinny jeans. A trend which will hopefully continue, because slimness vs. battery life isn't even a contest for me. Ideally I'd like a phone that's so thick I couldn't drop it through a sewer grating, because that's one of my greatest fears in life! :p

Christo said:
Its basically an N9 - Id rather an N9 though;)
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Hehe, not quite, but I know what you mean :) The reason I've been so excited about QNX is because I got to play around with a friend's N900 years ago and I was utterly blown away by how much better it feels to have a proper full-featured operating system in the palm of your hand! Android feels like the Shawshank Redemption in comparison! :p
Still, not really the same: Meego was Linux, so there was a huge array of desktop apps that could run just by recompiling them for ARM. QNX is similar (also *nix after all), but it's not Linux, so we as users (even relatively tech-savvy users) won't be able to do quite as much with it. You'll need a lot more developer support to make it as hackable as Meego/Maemo are. Plus there's a chance RIM will lock it down tightly, we'll have to wait and see how kind they will be to us...

Skyfall said:
I think as proved in this thread and the other one a few days ago the only people who care about BBX are existing BB owners/fans and people who want a keyboard.
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Not true, well, I do prefer having a keyboard but I can live without one, and I've never owned a BB in the past. I wouldn't consider myself a fan of RIM either, but I do respect them for all the innovative things they've done and for having created the smartphone market pretty much single-handedly before the iPhone was even a twinkle in Jobs's eye. I would hate to see them go down the pan, or simply be reduced to the status of an OEM for Google or Microsoft like Nokia (another giant of innovation) were.

Robbo said:
The physical keyboard crowd are a fairly small market segment and I prefer it on the touchscreen anyway.
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I'm sorry but my personal experience makes me think that's untrue: I know a lot of people who would have preferred a hardware keyboard but ended up going for a touchscreen-only phone simply because there just wasn't a hardware keyboard phone they wanted. I've been holding off upgrading from my Desire Z for ages hoping there'll be a new keyboard phone, but if a decent one doesn't turn up I will eventually get a touchscreen phone. So my point is: the market is tiny because the phones aren't there!
The market for touchscreen-only smartphones that cost £500 didn't exist at all before 2007 after all. Put out a compelling product and people will buy it.
 
jonneymendoza said:
We already have competition. U only need at least two members to compete with eachother. no way will iOS or Android rest on there lurals mate.
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Sorry disagree with that, iOS is getting very stale and if they arent careful, apple will find themselves exactly where RIM are at the moment in a few yrs time imho. Android is far and way ahead of anything out at the moment and they dont look likely to rest at anytime soon.

More competition the better, it will only drive the others to come up with something bigger and better than what they are currently releasing.

I dont think even the most diehard BB fan is saying BB10 is going to overtake iOS or Android anytime soon. What RIM is trying to do is to claw back some of their market share they have lost out in recent years to Android and Apple.

Sadly RIM has only themselves to blame for getting themselves into this almighty mess by sittiing back and doing FA when Android and Apple sped past them.

Anyhow i hope that BB10 is a success, for me a physical QWERTY keyboard is very important. Only a couple weeks away from the launch so ill be watching very closely although saying that, ive been doing enough reading of articles to know what BB10 is all about.
 
Also ill add that devs seem pretty keen on getting their apps on BB10, i suppose the $100 for getting an app onto BB10 also helped a bit. But its good RIM is trying their best to get devs and their apps onboard for BB10.

The latest Blackberry port-a-thon has brought in 15k apps in 37.5 hrs, not a bad start. Im just hoping that we see some big name apps on the BB10 when it launches.

Alec Saunders @asaunders well there you have it. 37.5 hours in, we hit 15,000 apps for this portathon. Feel like I've run a marathon. Thanks to all the devs!

If you were still questioning how committed developers are to BlackBerry 10, perhaps the latest BlackBerry port-a-thon can clear things up. The 36-hour event which asked for developers to port their apps to BlackBerry 10 before launch offered up $100USD for each eligible app and even promised a BlackBerry 10 Dev Alpha to qualifying developers. While we knew that plenty of devs would turn up to bring their apps over to BlackBerry 10, we had no idea it would be this many.

During the event, many of the BlackBerry developer team at RIM sent tweets letting us know how high the app count was. They noted 2,500, 5,000, 11,000 and then an amazing total of over 15,000 apps in just 37.5 hours. It's a pretty awesome tally overall. Add that to the already large number of apps that BlackBerry World has seen for BlackBerry 10 so far and it looks like we'll most definitely not have a shortage of available apps come launch day.
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At first glance it looks like an iphone5 irl, one of the other dads at my sons school works for RIM. When I saw it I said Hohn you have an iphone5 and he winced lol
 
^^ Ugh... RIM must be mightily irritated by those comments. The first leaks of the new BlackBerrys came out half a year before the iphone 5 was revealed, so if anything was copied (I doubt it was), then the only possible way it could have happened is Apple copying RIM...
 
Yas786 said:
Also ill add that devs seem pretty keen on getting their apps on BB10, i suppose the $100 for getting an app onto BB10 also helped a bit. But its good RIM is trying their best to get devs and their apps onboard for BB10.

The latest Blackberry port-a-thon has brought in 15k apps in 37.5 hrs, not a bad start. Im just hoping that we see some big name apps on the BB10 when it launches.
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Breaking news, RIM enter administration due to massive port-a-thon debt. :D:p
 
If they do skype or gtalk video I'll be sold on a playbook... if not.. well then they still suck (although it's not actually their fault given that the MS and Google own those services :-( )

Lack of a netflix app (and other 'essential' apps) sucks hard. If the porting sorts that out... once again, I'll be sold on a playbook :-)
 
Ksanti said:
^^ Ugh... RIM must be mightily irritated by those comments. The first leaks of the new BlackBerrys came out half a year before the iphone 5 was revealed, so if anything was copied (I doubt it was), then the only possible way it could have happened is Apple copying RIM...
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This obliquely illustrates the problem though: they've owned QNX since 2010, we've had photos of BB10 prototypes leaking out as long ago as 9 months ago, what the hell is taking them so long? Other companies release multiple phones a year, whereas the BB10s seem to have been in development for 3!

I reckon their glacial product development processes are the main reason they've lost so much market share, frankly. Same for Nokia, N9 should have been released a year before it was at least.
 
Those other companies don't have to worry about software and the biggest company in the world that does (Apple) can't even produce a European specific phone this year. A small company like RIM has no chance of competing in this environment, that's why Nokia dropped the N9.

I think they'll go under once all those foldable phonelets come out in 2014/2015. (Unless Apple can execute for this year? Doubtful.)
 
sarge78 said:
Those other companies don't have to worry about software and the biggest company in the world that does (Apple) can't even produce a European specific phone this year. A small company like RIM has no chance of competing in this environment, that's why Nokia dropped the N9.

I think they'll go under once all those foldable phonelets come out in 2014/2015. (Unless Apple can execute for this year? Doubtful.)
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Foldable whatnow? We going back to clamshells? :D

But yeah, you do have a point about the hardware/software thing, but I don't think RIM are that small on the grand scale. I mean I'm sure only a small proportion of Apple and Samsung's innumerable hordes are actually paid to make phones - those companies have fingers/tentacles in many, many pies. They're definitely smaller than Nokia used to be before they hired 99% of their research staff though... :rolleyes:
 
Watched a few video's last night on BB10. Looks quite interesting, but it seriously needs decent app support.
 
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