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Anyone else had loads of hardware issues with AMD current gen?

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Have mostly been with ATI/AMD over the last few years. I think 8800GT was my last Nvidia card.

Now, I am sure I have been through more graphics cards than most this year, but there really does appear to be something up with the current gen.

Had a 5850 which lasted me ages, and 6950 which did well til the fan started going, but this year I have had in my possession no less than 7 79XX cards.

Of those 7, 5 either died or had some kind of hardware issue.

2 x Asus 7950 DirectCU II -One died with me, other was sold on and died.

2 x HIS reference 7970 - one died within days. The other I DSR'd due to noise (not including that as fault here)

2 X Sapphire 7950 Vapor-x - One would output over hdmi, the other was returned due to stupid voltage lock.

1 x Gigabyte 7970 GHz - This card simply wouldn't overclock AT ALL, but having stock volts of 1.25V meant it was noisier than it needed be at stock 1100MHz. The reason it is going back though is it would frequently cause my pc to hang on restart.

I have been using 2 x Gigabyte GTX 670 windforce for some months now, but was really wanting to go back to AMD as some things I did were just easier on AMD, but I just couldnt stand trying any more hardware.

One gets sick of returning stuff eventually.

Unfortunately I couldn't use both the windforces in SLI on matx setup, so I got an EVGA FTW 670, and both are running fine now with high, but acceptable temps.

The Nvidia cards have just been faultless hardware-wise.

Ok, I did return two reference GTX 670's at one point, but that was simply because of awful cooler.

I know it's not been any particular component in my system that could be to blame for all the ATI card problems, as I have been through different motherboards, cpu's, power supplies, etc.

Had anyone else found more problems than normal with current gen AMD?
 
Weirdly enough just last week i came from a 8800gt to a gigabyte windforce oc 7850 which died within a hour. Luckily i bought from here and have good CS.
 
No issues for me. If I had that many cards die on me I would be looking elsewhere for the problem.
 
2 AMD cards this year, 7950 and 7850 after a lengthy stint with Nvidia. Not had any problems that weren't driver related at all.
 
Like I said, this has been with a multitude of different hardware for rest of machine. And not had a hardware fault with the 670's at all.



Like I said, not all died.

It doesn't rule out issues elsewhere just because an NV card has not had problems, but if I had many cards fail on me (more than 2) I would seriously look elsewhere for the issue. The AMD card failure rate is not that high and certainly not notably different to other manufacturers.
 
This is why it narks me when people suggest that ATi is the defacto choice for this gen.

It isn't.
 
It doesn't rule out issues elsewhere just because an NV card has not had problems, but if I had many cards fail on me (more than 2) I would seriously look elsewhere for the issue. The AMD card failure rate is not that high and certainly not notably different to other manufacturers.

This has happened with:
different CPU's (3770/3930K)
different motherboards (Rampage IV Formula, P8 Z77M Pro - not sure if ran one on sabertooth z77)
different power supplies (Thermaltake Toughpower 875W, Seasonix X850)
with ups and without
Different cases
Hell, I have even moved house!

What else would you consider pointing the finger at? Whatever else you can think of, I have probably changed that too - though maybe, just maybe, not :)
 
This is why it narks me when people suggest that ATi is the defacto choice for this gen.

It isn't.

Don't get me wrong, they are brilliant cards when they work. And I would have liked to use them...

And the Nvidia cards aren't without their own issues, but at least they aren't dying on me.
 
This is why it narks me when people suggest that ATi is the defacto choice for this gen.

It isn't.

When the choice is an over priced low end card or a decently priced high end card (or whatever comparison you might want to make) then it quite clearly is the choice of this generation at this point. It was different a few months ago when they were priced closer to warrant the nVidia price premium... now less so.

Some subjective analysis on failure rates just doesn't really prove anything I'm afraid. I don't doubt eyetrip's bad luck or whatever you want to call it but I'm sure you won't have to look far for somebody having a similar issue with nVidia cards. It isn't a brand specific phenomena.

Look at it a different way: if there really was an issue with failure rates do you not think there'd have been an article from a pro-nVidia site already? That tells the whole story in my view.
 
Personally I think because AMD are in finacial trouble they are trying to get as much out of ATi as possible, pushing chips that are not 100% stable and I also think that the miraculous 'never settle' drivers is at the expense of frame times.

It will be tragic to see AMD/ATi go bust, as competition is healty, but I suspect desperate measures from a desperate company.

Looks like it's working too, AMD share price:

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When the choice is an over priced low end card or a decently priced high end card (or whatever comparison you might want to make) .

I do agree with this... I do think the Nvidias are woefully overpriced, and I do wish they were not let down with the low bandwidth and memory.

And yes, it's most certainly subjective. I know there are people form both camps, suffering problems, but I have personally never known anything like the issues I have somehow experienced with this gen AMD....

And I have been working with PC's for a long time now.
 
This has happened with:
different CPU's (3770/3930K)
different motherboards (Rampage IV Formula, P8 Z77M Pro - not sure if ran one on sabertooth z77)
different power supplies (Thermaltake Toughpower 875W, Seasonix X850)
with ups and without
Different cases
Hell, I have even moved house!

What else would you consider pointing the finger at? Whatever else you can think of, I have probably changed that too - though maybe, just maybe, not :)

There are many many variables as you point out some of them. Perhaps in your case you have had a lot of failed cards (you should buy a lottery ticket! :D). It would just make me consider other things. If I were to just throw an example in there which can cause something very similar. Take for example company X makes RAM and you install it into your computer and doesn't boot. You RMA it and get another set, runs for a week and then stops working. You give up with X and buy from Y, great it works, but a month later it stops working again. RMA and the same problem occurs. You then go buy from Z and it works fine. A year later still working great. You have no idea why, you have even changed motherboards etc... It turns out that the motherboards were defaulting to 1.8V and bricking the RAM from X and Y because it can't cope with more than 1.6V, the RAM from Z was more tolerable and coped with it. That is just an example of what can happen with hardware and it is rarely straight forward. ;)
 
Have you got static fingers? Just joking I have had 2 Gigabyte 7970s this year only sent the first one back because I wanted a card that overclocked better. so none were faulty, second one I have had for over 6 months!
 
2 7970's, 1st one was a WF and was faulty, the other ones fine, 2 7950's, both fine, it's the first faulty AMD card I've had to return at time of purchase, I have sent back more Nvidia cards as faulty at time of purchase-although I have owned far more Nvidia than AMD.

@SkodaMart, very much doubt AMD(gpu dept at least) will go bust, they shift too many units and at the very least would be bought up if it went terribly wrong for them-besides, currently they produce the fastest gpu's.

:)
 
Personally I think because AMD are in finacial trouble they are trying to get as much out of ATi as possible, pushing chips that are not 100% stable and I also think that the miraculous 'never settle' drivers is at the expense of frame times.

seriously your accusing a company to produce chips that aint stable and sell them?
seriously?

your reality is truly skewed.
 
Personally I think because AMD are in finacial trouble they are trying to get as much out of ATi as possible.....



..... pushing chips that are not 100% stable and I also think that the miraculous 'never settle' drivers is at the expense of frame times.

AMDs problems are with their CPU department - GPU department is as good as it's ever been IMO.

As you're not really an unbiased poster nor have you used an AMD card on the 12.11 drivers then I think it's probably safe to ignore the second part of your post. You're more than welcome to buy a 7950/70 install the 12.11 drivers record your frame times and let us know if you visibly noticed any difference.
 
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