Anyone getting Rocket lake!

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I am still waiting for a decent priced elusive 3080 which could be a few more months. By that time the 5900x would be 7 months old (haven't got one of them either). I looked at some bench tests of the 10900k on an nhd15 with all cores at 5ghz and temps at up to 70oc. I think that's pretty good. Thinking of sticking with Intel now for the single core performance. I play some games which will benifit from single cores on direct x like planet coaster for example.

 

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I wanted to upgrade and settled for a 3700x due to price/availability for the new stuff.
At first I wanted a 10700k and after that was thinking about Rocket lake but I decided Ryzen just because of the manufacturing node and power efficiency. There is no way Intel is going to draw less power in their +++++ node.
I also was fooled a little bit by the the higher boost frequency of the 10700k, but I calmed down after I saw on Gamers Nexus how short lived that frequency is because of power constraints........

I'm on the fence. I've just recieved my mobo for a 5900x but I may return it within the next two weeks as my pc isn't going to be built any time soon. I have all the other parts just no cpu or gpu. Another reason that I'm being swayed is the reliability.

 

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Well I'm sending my mb back. Read about too many ongoing issues with ryzen cpus. I only game. I would rather do that then wait months before getting all the parts to find it won't boot up. A lot of games still prefer single core speed.

As for the couple of silly troll replies well. At least there will be one on release for me then.

 

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Yes, it's a drop in upgrade for Z490. There'll also be a Z590 for new buyers.

11th gen desktop is the first new architecture from Intel in 5.5 years... It's rumoured 15-20% IPC increase will mean it takes the gaming performance crown away from Ryzen. Quite hilarious that Intel's 14nm chips will be faster than AMD's 7nm in gaming, imagine when Intel release a 7nm CPU lol!

Of course Rocket lake will use more power than Ryzen, though as the Nvidia 3000 release showed us, people don't care about power consumption, as long as it's the fastest

Also rumours that Intel is in talks with TSMC to produce Intel CPU's on their future 4nm process. This would be a great decision for the short term, as Intel can afford to pay much more per wafer than AMD, who already struggle to get enough 7nm wafers from TSMC. Intel can afford to do this while their own fabs bring their own 7nm online.

Fun times ahead!

Another reason for my decision to go rocket lake is that the alder lake cpus are rumoured to be up to 150tdp. I'd like to give that a miss until Intel can get control on their tdps.

 

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Shame you never got to use it. I've had 2 and had no issues. Both have been outstanding.

I'd probably not be in the situation I am now if I managed to get a gpu and cpu I understand what you are saying.

 

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Haha! I went 4790k > 3600 while I waited for a 5900x. I got one off the MM.

Fair game

You know what else can be used in other software? All those lovely cores that Intel won't give you because they're rehashing 14nm for the billionth time and can't get decent performance without blowing power usage to the point they've had to drop cores from their flagship "best gaming CPU".

But sure its got AVX-512, will draw 300W+ and made by a company with dubious ethical practices....

I've read that the max wattage will be 250w.

I will be undervolting the gpu by 100w. Same performance and 10oc less so that will free up 100 watts and even out the difference.

 

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Haha! I went 4790k > 3600 while I waited for a 5900x. I got one off the MM.

What bugs you talking about mate? I chose my own components and it booted up first time and I have no issues with the setup in my signature. If I was to nitpick I would say I don’t like the default fan curve on the motherboard or it may be my cryorig cooler.
I really want to know about those bugs you are talking about.

I don't have any mates here that I know of. Use a typical search engine for your answer. I'm not saying many people like yourself didn't have issues.

THIS there is a reason for those 100A power phases. That’s why I took the AMD way also, I rather have 5-10 FPS less then buy a proc that’s supposed to have 5ghz but it stays at the same 4.2 because of power constraints.

I doubt it would use anywhere near that much for gaming. If it does I have a very good PSU.

It's that 5.3ghz single core boost I need for some games I play and if i can get it to 5ghz all core that would be all I would hope full.

 

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Ouch, that hurt, was just trying to help you make an informed decision based on my experience and research because I wanted the same as you a while back. My bad.

Sorry. My bad.

 

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I used typical search engines and found issues with Intel motherboards as well. You’ll have to go with something other than AMD or Intel.

Touch wood I'll take my chances with Intel over amd.

 

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Reasoned and balanced decision making at its finest

AMD has always been generally more unreliable. Sorry to hurt your feelings so much as to cause you to respond with low brow sarcasm. I don't expect anything better though with the flack I've had for not wanting to buy an amd card lol.

 

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You came asking for advice and you got to "touch wood, I'll go Intel". With that level of decision making I'm not sure a higher brow answer would achieve much.

Intel is no holy grail of reliability. Did you miss the endless security vulnerabilities and follow up, performance degrading, patches?

I asked who's buying the cpu. I'd say touch wood what ever the conversation was to do with a decision like this. It's the superstition in me. I've never had an issue with Intel. You seem angry that I would not buy an amd cpu more than anything.

 

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Probably best to not look at posts from 2005, and instead gather a better understanding of the current architectures.

I have read enough posts about amd graphics cards.

 

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Don't know why you'd consider Intel in today's age unless you're able to get it cheaper.

While I think the 5600X is a little overpriced, you pretty much can't get a better gaming CPU.

Performance? No. 11th gen will out perform it.

I think given your level of knowledge of the products from both sides, I can see the need for the touch wood comment. This is a big deal for you, a one shot every 3, 4 or 5 years, or maybe more so jumping onto a product before it has been launched and independently tested seems daft at best, and at worst trolling.

There is a lot of irony in that comment if that's what you think. I already explained that comment but what ever makes you sleep better


All I asked was who is buying it lol.

 

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This is the type of reply I'd expect from a lean to the latter of what I wrote.

As people have said 'we' try and help people, not sure how waiting for reviews before waiting for a decision isn't a good idea... But like I said trolling.

Like I said before what ever makes you sleep better.

 

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We can't know that for sure.
I'm all down with waiting and seeing how Rocket Lake turns out, but Intel don't exactly inspire confidence when the last marketing technique was sticking CPU's in Avengers packaging without the Avengers game.

Going by current leaks it will. Maybe they will give away a free game lol.

I was like you guys. I nearly jumped on the Ryzen band wagon, luckily I didn't get one as so far 11th gen loks very promising for gaming. I mean let's be honest who needs 12/24 cores and threads for gaming? like I've said before a lot of games I play benefit from single core speed and some aren't even programmed to utilize all cores.