Anyone going to wait to see if there are more GPU models on the way?

[g67575]

The most obvious gap in the market is at the £500-£600 price range, for Nvidia. AMD has 2 reference models in this range, both ahead of nvidia's £470 GPU, but behind the £650 rtx 3080 reference model.

Some have mentioned a possible rtx 3080 ti, but with the rtx 3080 already ahead of the RX 6800 XT, im not so sure there's a need for one - it would have to beat the RX 6900 XT to be worthwhile.

then, there's the mid/lower end where NV dominates, AMD is apparently releasing the 6700 series in q1 2021.

So, are you going to wait, or try your best to buy a new GPU, despite low / non existent stock?

Or, is anyone going to wait for rdna 3 / the rtx 4000 series?

 

[g67575]

NV didn't bother to compete at the $501-$698 price range with the rtx 2000 series... instead, the rtx 2080 and later the rtx 2080 super rrp was $699, then $500 for the rtx 2070, kind of odd.

does make me wonder if they will repeat this pattern for the rtx 3000 series - I hope not.

 

[g67575]

I think Ampere on 7nm is going to give AMD some headaches, if ready for q1/q2 2021 and the super variants offer min 50 fps+ at 4k in all games... apparently these products will be available in 'large volume'.

if only we knew more about this, the decision would be easy then

 

[g67575]

I don't think there will be an rtx 3080 ti, or 3070 ti, or they would've been announced by now. with the rtx 2000 series, we got 1 'Ti' graphics card, and it was launched alongside other gpus in the series.

I think there will be 7nm Super versions of the 3070, 3080, just like the 2070 S and 2080 S.

With potential upgraded NV versions in a 3-6 months, the only appealing card in my case, is the rtx 3060 TI FE and that's if availability improves.

 

[g67575]

there's a small chance it could be announced this year - otherwise, not at all...

I don't see the point really, if its true 7nm tsmc based Ampere is on the way.

 

[g67575]

link here:
https://www.techpowerup.com/273302/nvidia-reportedly-moving-ampere-to-7-nm-tsmc-in-2021

its based on a digitimes report. Actually, it doesnt say 'large volume', just the transition from 8nm to 7nm will be 'very large'.

you'll need to judge for yourself if its true.

 

[g67575]

translation of the report from here:
https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/nvidia-allegedly-moving-ampere-to-7-nm-tsmc-in-2021.html

'The reason for NVIDIA's transfer of orders is that TSMC's 7nm offer is relatively close to the people, and the other is that it has previously planned to diversify risks to deal with Samsung's 8nm yield problem. The NVIDIA 7nm large order is also one of TSMC's important customers to maintain high -end 7nm capacity utilization in 2021.'

 

[g67575]

thats true, but not really a problem, there's still the rx 500 series and rx 5600 XT for the low-mid end price ranges.

 

[g67575]

The 3080ti isn't a possibility, it's a certainty. Only the most deranged soul, or a 3090 owner, would say otherwise.

Guess I'm deranged then... can't you cope in a world without an RTX 3080 TI with 64GB of VRAM

If there's no TI, that leaves room for a (more powerful) rtx 3080 Super, sometime next year.

 

[g67575]

I think the supposed plans for high end Ti models were just completely made up estimates, mostly by random ppl on Twitter, none of which have ever proved they have any 'inside info' from NV themselves.

Whats funny about these twitter accounts, is that some of them made up some early spec predictions, assuming there would be no doubling in shader unit count, so they predicted an incremental upgrade in shader units from the rtx 2000 series - and were completely wrong .

Some thought NV would be using 8nm, some 7nm, there's a 50 / 50 chance of getting it right.

The only correct Ti prediction was the RTX 3060 Ti - we knew that was correct because they had an early picture of the packaging, a few weeks before the release!

 

[g67575]

best case, would be 7nm super rtx 3070 / rtx 3080 versions in q1. I think q2/q3 is more likely - it will take time to switch the designs from 1 fab process, to another. hopefully, if there are 'super' versions planned, hopefully the prices will be the same as the standard versions.

extra points for S logo