Anyone seen a 4k projector in action?

400Gb a few years ago and around 600 now. Like i said, just a matter of making it cheap to do and we have the time, 4k isn't exactly round the corner.

How is a 4k Film going to be larger than that? Considering the sound will probably be the same and the resolution is 4-6x the size.

from real world considerations this isnt viable (from what I understand)

Under lab conditions with less physical protection /fragility requirements yes the above has been done, but I dont believe its anywhere near that once home use comes into consideration and mass production techniques are used (in other words they release these figures knowing full well they will be reduced once the disc actually goes into production)

It wouldn't be larger than that, 4K would be < 200GB.

I dont believe that to be even close to what feature film sizes would end up being
 
Isn't a large portion of the blu-ray taken up by the uncompressed 7.1 audio?
The actual video size, when quadrupled, should be able to fit on a blu ray of some description.

Quad-layer (100 GB) discs have been demonstrated on a drive with modified optics[154] and standard unaltered optics.[155] Hitachi stated that such a disc could be used to store 7 hours of 32 Mbit/s video (HDTV) or 3 hours and 30 minutes of 64 Mbit/s video (Cinema 4K)

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I think 4k will be good for the cinema, but I don't see myself, or the majority of the public needing it for quite some time. Surely a TV wqould have to be huge to take advantage of it?
 
Given that there was a brief mention of cinemas and digital projectors, we went to see The Hunger Games at the Odeon Cinema where I live the other day and they have digital projectors there.

Immediately, when the BBFC screen came on, you could actually see the pixels on the screen and it was quite surprising. You couldn't notice anything once the action started, but I was surprised to see square pixels, made me what resolution they do run at.
 
I saw Spider-Man 3 at the first 4k showing in the world, which was at the Guildford Odeon. Looked amazing and it sucks that I haven't been able to see a film in 4k since (most "digital" showings are 2k).
 
And what are you basing this on? Where are you getting this "factor of 10" number from?

1) When Sony where showing off their new 4k projector a month or so ago, EVEN they were unable to show off natural 4k media.

If it was as simple as some on here would have you believe, it woudlnt have been a challange. (Remember they wouldnt even need to do a whole film, they could have just done multiple clips etc). Most laptops have more than the required storage on their c drive (without relying on a slower usb device)

2) 4k reproduction is as near as **** it perfect, any film studio willing to release this in any means for public purchase are going to put some as yet unknown protection / encryption on it much beefier than anything seen as yet from BR - this will therefore use more storage than current protection methods for the known formats

3) As yet we have no way of knowing how said 4k film will be encoded - this will in all probabilty require different amounts of storage for starters than the present method for current BR. Without any direct knowledge, database files I believe get into 100's Gb in size, but what kind of size limits are there on other file formats?

4) As already highlighted, BR's file sizes currently range from 10Gb approx to about 50-60GB (over two discs for LOTR EE version), and from my knowledge of buying /owning 600 - 700 BR's myself I would suggest the average file size is growing (for the film itself since I bought my first one when the PS3 was originally released). We have NO WAY of knowning how large even the first 4k film - through standard distribution channels - will be.

5) I havent working out the ratio of pixel differences between Sd / Hi Def and then comparing dvd file sizes to BR file sizes - to try and work out a corrolation between hi -def /4k......

Just a few of the reasons why I dont believe 200Gb is going to be anywhere near what the end resultant file size will be

Everyone (including me) is guessing, as no -one knows for sure if / when 4k films are released for purchase how large they will be , however I do believe the above are a few reasonable points as to why they will be larger:)

Given that there was a brief mention of cinemas and digital projectors, we went to see The Hunger Games at the Odeon Cinema where I live the other day and they have digital projectors there.

Immediately, when the BBFC screen came on, you could actually see the pixels on the screen and it was quite surprising. You couldn't notice anything once the action started, but I was surprised to see square pixels, made me what resolution they do run at.

Have no idea if this is true or not - but being the BBFC produces that "slide" , it may be a standard hi def image rather than a 4k one - so it could have just been upscaled by the projector , and therefore made the pixels look horrendous?
 
I was at Plymouth Vue last night, and didn't realise they had Sony 4K projectors until it mentioned about it on an advert. clarity was excellent, although unfortunately we got stuck right under the screen so my my perception of panning and a fast movement was a bit off.

Definitely a massive improvement clarity wise though for such a big screen.

Film was Avengers Assemble.
 
I saw the sony 4k 3d projector in action the other month. Compared it to a sim unit and the latest epson 3d unit. Obviously the sony blows away the other units absolutely no comparison. The 3d was the best ive ever seen. It made the epson look like a cheap gimmick. No actual 4k footage though just upscaled bluray. They did a/b comparisons and its the unit to get if you have a spare 18 grand


The sim was mich closer in pq but the sony still edged in in nearly every way, only really noticeable when directly comparing.
 
Yeah

From the back of the Cinema there is was no visible difference compared to 2k but I can imagine towards the front you might notice less pixelation.

Imax HD blows it out of the water ;)
 
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