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Anyone switch sides from nVidia to AMD?

booterboy

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Hi guys,
Have just sold my Dell 27'' today to upgrade to the 30''.Currently have a GTX580
since last March and has been an excellent card for me at 1920x1200.
Think I might need to upgrade my gpu because of only having 1.5gb vram.
Only for that I would have kept my 580 for another year.
Anyway going to see how my 580 runs at 2560x1600 before I upgrade my gpu.
Am tempted by the 7970 but going to wait for a price drop before I committ.
Would love to stay using an nVidia solution but there is none atm.
Like everyone else I don't know whats going on in nVidia land,they must have
serious problems not launching Kelper and not replacing the 580 for nearly a year and a half.
Have a feeling that when Kelper eventually arrives people are going to have to pay through the nose to purchase it.
So for me it looks like Im going to switch back to AMD for my new gpu(my last
AMD card was a 4870 I think).Now to play the waiting game and see how much the 7970 is going to come down in price before I buy.
Anyone else making the switch from green to red?
BTW Im no fanboy of either,in an ideal world it would be an Amd card with nVidia drivers.
 
I would just see how well the card performs with the new monitor. If it is rubbish and can't hack it then get a 7970.

I would probably wait a few months though if you can as Keplar might be a better or they will probably some nice price drops.
 
You should definitely get the monitor and see how it goes before replacing your GPU.
You can always game in a window for a while if need be - sometimes I game in a 22" window on my 24" monitor because I prefer windowed mode.

I switched from 9800GT to 5870 - a no brainer at the time. I'm now fairly loyal to the red team.

In your situation I would wait and see what nVidia's next release contains.
 
Jono8 said:
I would just see how well the card performs with the new monitor. If it is rubbish and can't hack it then get a 7970.

I would probably wait a few months though if you can as Keplar might be a better or they will probably some nice price drops.
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Yep the plan is to see how my 1.5gb 580 performs at the high res.
Would love to wait for Kelper but I can envisage a huge premium for these new
cards,also with the lack of any solid info on the new cards it could be May/June
before anything is released.
As I said nVidia must be having massive problems to be lying dormant for the
past 18 months,AMD shareholders must be in dreamland(apart from bulldozer lol).
 
I just about get away with running my 570sc at 2560x1440 for gaming, from what I understand (and I'm happy to be corrected), the vram runs a bit short at these sorts of res when you ramp the AA up.

I would've thought your 580 would be good enough to get you through a few months until the prices are a bit more sensible.
 
Wait a bit longer if you want to stick with nvidia, GTX680 is coming and at the very least it should push down prices.

HD7970 isnt much faster than a GTX580 anyway so whats the rush? My GTX580 handles 2560x1440 just fine.
 
ebilcake said:
Wait a bit longer if you want to stick with nvidia, GTX680 is coming and at the very least it should push down prices.

HD7970 isnt much faster than a GTX580 anyway so whats the rush? My GTX580 handles 2560x1440 just fine.
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Im in no rush,just know im going to need more vram at that res.
Will defo wait until prices of the new generation cards come down to a sensible price point,although can't blame AMD for over pricing when nVidia have being
doing it for years.
Just always wanted a 30'' monitor as I have gone from 17''-19''-20''-21''-24''-27''
in the past 18 years lol.
Hope Im not disapointed with my new 30'',it would be an expensive mistake to make.
 
Personally, I prefer the look of AMD/ATI cards, especially the Twin Frozr versions (I now know that Nvidia also do a TF version, but I still think AMD cards looks nicer) graphically, I don't see much difference when you compare prices to specs
 
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Jay794 said:
Lol they look exactly the same, I was referring to the NVida GTX style of cards, compare that style to the newly released Radeon 7000 series and IMO the R7000's look a lot nicer
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Huh :confused: You specifically said, and I'll quote "I prefer the look of AMD/ATI cards, especially the Twin Frozr versions, graphically" This to me says you prefer the looks of the Twin Frozr versions over all the rest. I pointed out that you can get the Twin Frozr versions of Nvidia cards, and now you're backtracking somewhat. If this is not what you meant then can I suggest you edit your post as it's obviously wrong! To be fair though it's all pretty irrelevant, because anyone who buys a video card purely for its aesthetics really needs their heads looking at :p
 
i wouldnt worry about vram at the moment, dunno what all the fuss is about i have gamed on a dell 30" @2566 x 1600 for years now, and never experienced any problems, i currently have 2 x gtx480's 1.5gig vram, and game quite happily at around 50-60 fps on bf3 with no vram issues whatsoever, no stuttering nothing, the need for lots of aa at that res isnt nescesary because the res is so high anyway.
 
Nobody with any sense buys a card purely on asethetics

But you want a card to look nice and perform well don't you
 
ebilcake said:
Wait a bit longer if you want to stick with nvidia, GTX680 is coming and at the very least it should push down prices.

HD7970 isnt much faster than a GTX580 anyway so whats the rush? My GTX580 handles 2560x1440 just fine.
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The 680 isn't pencilled in until Q3-4.
 
Number one when your gaming at that Res you dont need as much AA and therefore 1.5Gig of VRAM will cope absolutely fine. Your assumptions on Keplar and NVidia are unjustified.

The 580GTX may have been around for a while but I doubt its because NVidia are having problems with the Keplar model. The 580GTX is extremely fast and is reasonably priced for what it does. The new radeon cards although fast arent that much faster than a 580GTX YET are priced higher than a GTX580 by quite a margin. Its not worth the cost for the few frames youll get extra.

When Keplar comes out it will replace the 580GTX with the 680GTX or maybe the 670GTX will be comparable to the 580GTX in leaps no one knows yet but the point is they will enter at the same ish price point, driving prices down on the 5 series and if nvidia stay to their usual pattern the performance of the 680GTX will be greater than the new Radeon cards.

Its more likely ATI brought out their new Radeon cards well before keplar to take advatnage of being thge best single card out at the time but when the 680 comes out they will no longer have the fastest single GPU.

You need to wait a little and save your money. Im not saying you have more money than sense and if you can afford it then just go with what you want but Id rather say just get another 580GTX second hand, go SLI. Thatll handle your 30" screen worries no problems and then when the newer cards come out you can then make a better judgement see the benchmarks and reviews and then pick the right card for you. Thats what Id do. Better that then waste £500 on a card thats not much faster than your current card
 
Anyone that says a 7970 isn't much faster than a 580 clearly doesn't know anything!
Op, stick with 580 1.5gb for a while and see how you get on, prices will gradually come down, but don't expect Kepler to be cheap.
 
Try it first before buying a 7970.

ANN1H1LAT0R said:
Its more likely ATI brought out their new Radeon cards well before keplar to take advatnage of being thge best single card out at the time but when the 680 comes out they will no longer have the fastest single GPU.
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********,

It's out because it's ready!

Second good laugh I've had today! :D
 
dave_beast said:
Anyone that says a 7970 isn't much faster than a 580 clearly doesn't know anything!
Op, stick with 580 1.5gb for a while and see how you get on, prices will gradually come down, but don't expect Kepler to be cheap.
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I would say that only 4fps faster isnt much faster to be honest and when its around £150 more expensive 4fps isnt worth the money. I know more than you seem to know it would seem buddy :D

http://www.guru3d.com/article/amd-radeon-hd-7970-review/
 
Sure you do buddy!
:rolleyes:

Try reading the review that you posted:

'where the game is not really GPU bound the GTX 580 would lead marginally here and there. However where the GPU really matters in the latest game titles, that's where the Radeon HD 7970 shows it's strength, and leads with a very decent margin. Really our ultimate tests always have been Crysis 2, Metro 2022, Battlefield 2&3 and Anno 1404. In all titles the Radeon HD 7970 with an excellent margin of 20, 30 sometimes even 40% Especially in the uber-high resolutions the card marches onwards fast in performance.'

Over@[H]:

'Gameplay Summary
Batman: Arkham City : The ASUS Radeon HD 7970 handled this demanding game with relative ease at 2560x1600 and FXAA High. At these settings the overclocked ASUS Radeon HD 7970 performed 38.3% faster than the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580, and an astonishing 98% faster than the AMD Radeon HD 6970! Not only did it perform extremely well, it did a virtually flawless job handling tessellation, which is one of the most demanding graphics options in Batman.

The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim : While all of the video cards were able to maximize Skyrim's settings at 2560x1600 with 8X MSAA and FXAA, the ASUS Radeon HD 7970 was the only video card capable of enabling Adaptive-MSAA which improved overall quality of the game by a substantial amount. Even with Adaptive-MSAA enabled the overclocked ASUS Radeon HD 7970 performed 23.8% faster GeForce GTX 580, and 37.9% faster than the Radeon HD 6970, neither of which had a Transparency AA setting enabled.

Battlefield 3 : The ASUS Radeon HD 7970 destroyed its competition in BF3. The GeForce GTX 580 and Radeon HD 6970 were playable 2560x1600 and FXAA High. The stock ASUS Radeon HD 7970 was able to one up both of these by enabling 2X MSAA and performing faster. The overclock achieved provided enough performance to maximize the games graphics settings to 4X MSAA and FXAA High. In our Apples-to-Apples test at 2560x1600 with 2X MSAA the overclocked ASUS Radeon HD 7970 performed 52.3% faster than the GeForce GTX 580, and 74% faster than the Radeon HD 6970.

Deus Ex: Human Revolution : The ASUS Radeon HD 7970 benefited the most from the overclock in this game. All four video cards played with highest in-game graphics options selected at 2560x1600 with FXAA High, however there was virtually no competition for the ASUS Radeon HD 7970. It performed 47.1% faster than the GeForce GTX 580 and 54.8% faster than the Radeon HD 6970. All in all the ASUS Radeon HD 7970's performance swept the competition under the rug.'

http://hardocp.com/article/2012/01/25/asus_radeon_hd_7970_video_card_review/9
 
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