Anything I can do to improve speed?

If you look at the steam sale topic in the Pc games section lot's of people are geting very slow speeds and have been doing so since the sale started i know it's not much help
 
theipodkid said:
No they don't have ADSL2+, but ADSL max is there so ask if your on that, if not then ask to be moved on to it.
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He is already on an ADSL Max line, you can tell this as his Operational Mode/Modulation is set to G.DMT - this is ADSL Max.

BT's dynamic line management will only bump your IP profile up if you hit the threshold for the higher line profile and keep that sync for up to 120 hours (max) - it can be as quickly as 4 hours if it's a significant increase however going from ~3500kbps to ~4500kbps will take quite a few hours. Kitz has a very good explanation on the whole process here: http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/IPprofile.htm including a list of IP profiles.

As your line isn't stable right now go to the SNR Tweak page (http://192.168.1.254/snr.cgi) and change the value to 50. This drops your Target SNR by 3dB and will hopefully be stable. Also, go to the ADSL Mode page (http://192.168.1.254/configuration/adslmode.html) and make sure you have PhyR ticked for Upstream and Downstream - this will hopefully keep your line more stable at lower SNR values. It should look like this:

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tl;dr: don't keep on rebooting your router, your actually making the problem worse by doing this as the BT equipment will think you have a flakey line. Make the changes to the SNR and ADSL Mode I suggested and wait it out until BT reset your IP profile if you hit the threshold for the next IP profile.
 
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Kona* said:
He is already on an ADSL Max line, you can tell this as his Operational Mode/Modulation is set to G.DMT - this is ADSL Max.

BT's dynamic line management will only bump your IP profile up if you hit the threshold for the higher line profile and keep that sync for up to 120 hours (max) - it can be as quickly as 4 hours if it's a significant increase however going from ~3500kbps to ~4500kbps will take quite a few hours. Kitz has a very good explanation on the whole process here: http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/IPprofile.htm including a list of IP profiles.

As your line isn't stable right now go to the SNR Tweak page (http://192.168.1.254/snr.cgi) and change the value to 50. This drops your Target SNR by 3dB and will hopefully be stable. Also, go to the ADSL Mode page (http://192.168.1.254/configuration/adslmode.html) and make sure you have PhyR ticked for Upstream and Downstream - this will hopefully keep your line more stable at lower SNR values. It should look like this:

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tl;dr: don't keep on rebooting your router, your actually making the problem worse by doing this as the BT equipment will think you have a flakey line. Make the changes to the SNR and ADSL Mode I suggested and wait it out until BT reset your IP profile if you hit the threshold for the next IP profile.
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ok well on my router, on that page, I don't have an option for PhyR or capability.

Ok so should i change the SNR to 50? As I am still only getting speeds of 2.62mbps on speed test :( the connection hasn't dropped out at all, and steam says that it has been downloading at a constant speed allnight (around 280kb/s)

I will try calling plusnet and asking them to reset my ip profile to see if that helps :)

thanks again
 
Oh right.

Not much help, but I've just been messing with my SNR and got a line noise of 0.6 and it's stable.

So, I think you should get a good 4mb+ seeing as my like is about 4.2km and I'm getting over 5mb.
 
updated the router, and enabled the phyR and now using an SNR of 6.3 and sync speed of 4416, but plusnet said it will take 72 hours for my ip profile to adjust :(
 
hellarda said:
updated the router, and enabled the phyR and now using an SNR of 6.3 and sync speed of 4416, but plusnet said it will take 72 hours for my ip profile to adjust :(
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Looks like the other's have said exactly what I was going to say re: updating your firmware to enable PhyR - it really does make a difference, my line sync is now a stable 3300kbps up from 2900kbps because of it :)

With a sync speed of 4416kbps you will get bumped up to the 3500kbps bRAS profile if your line doesn't re-sync within the 72/120 hour period it takes for the profile change to happen, this profile will give you a maximum throughput of 3.5Mbps. The limit for the 4000kbps bRAS profile is 4544kbps to 5088kbps sync speed, I'd personally wait until you get bumped up to the 3500kbps bRAS profile before trying to gain any more sync speed by rebooting the router.

Good luck :)
 
Just remember whenever you change something in the billion router after you select apply make sure you click save to :D i forgot about that bit hehe

Hellarda i like you have a long line so would be great to hear how you get on with this PhyR setting not to sure how it all works to be honest but would love to see your findings.
 
liamcrane said:
Just remember whenever you change something in the billion router after you select apply make sure you click save to :D i forgot about that bit hehe

Hellarda i like you have a long line so would be great to hear how you get on with this PhyR setting not to sure how it all works to be honest but would love to see your findings.
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Yup, I've been caught out by the "Save to flash" button once or twice :p

As for PhyR, it really does work - here is a little bit of information I've pulled from another site (http://www.spaldwick.com/broadband/billion-7800n):

Using a chipset from Broadcom, the Billion 7800N benefits from a new impulse noise protection technology. According to Broadcom, its PhyR (pronounced “Fire”) technology delivers a ten-fold improvement in noise resilience against impulse noise and delivers a reduction in bit error rates. This feature has only been made available in the latest firmware (1.06b), and is not switched on by default.

To switch on impulse noise protection, go to the ‘Advanced’ menu, then ‘Configuration’. Then select ‘WAN’ and ‘ADSL Mode’. You need to tick the two boxes for ‘PhyR’ – for both upstream and downstream. Then press ‘Apply’.
 
Thanks for that info kona thats helped me out loads.

Just curious to know if say your ISP has you on an adsl2+ connection via there supplied router like sky have me on and i change the adsl mode to g.dmt on the billion router like hellarda has done, if i was then to reconnect my old sky router would the line stay on gdmt or would it revert back to adsl2+ as thats what sky had me on?
 
liamcrane said:
Thanks for that info kona thats helped me out loads.

Just curious to know if say your ISP has you on an adsl2+ connection via there supplied router like sky have me on and i change the adsl mode to g.dmt on the billion router like hellarda has done, if i was then to reconnect my old sky router would the line stay on gdmt or would it revert back to adsl2+ as thats what sky had me on?
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Routers usually try to auto-negotiate the ADSL mode/modulation type so unless the Sky router has an option to specifically set the modulation type then I'm pretty sure it would use whatever the fastest method it could negotiate at is. Is there a reason you have forced G.DMT on your router? The only reason I could think to do this is that you have a very old aluminium line which doesn't like the frequencies ADSL2+ uses - this is similar to my line, I can't sync at all using ADSL2+ (G.992.5) but connect fine using ADSL2 (G.992.3)
 
I also have the Billion and a very long line (63db attentuation)

I did try to turn Phyr off as an experiment but only lasted 5 minutes
 
I found my line seemed to sync quicker on gdmt. At the time my sky router was syncing at 2800kbps on adsl2+ i think thats what sky have me on but as soon as i installed the billion it rose to just under 3000kbps with all the adsl modes ticked in the billion settings. I decided to try just gdmt without twaeking any settings like snr phyr was already enabled on the downstream once i loaded the new firmware onto the router and it synced in at 3100kbps. I then tweaked snr to 50 and it rose to 3600kbps on gdmt i then tried ticking all the adsl modes again and it dropped to 3400kbps. So it seemed gdmt was giving me the highest sync all be it after 25mins of battlefield online it dropped and for some strange reason the billion would not connect to the net after that no matter how many reboots i did. Installed my old sky router and that didnt even work had a proper panic on but after disconnecting everything i.e filters etc it seemed to sync again but it showing 2300kbps at the mo so im thinking of giving the billion a whirl again later but maybe go a little easier on the snr tweak maybe a 60 setting or something like that
 
When a line experiences multiple de syncs it will start to lower the ip profile to account for the more noise that faults cause on the line in an effort to maintain service. This is increasing the SNR or decreasing it. So when you guys are de syncing and resyning all over the show i would recomend a call in asking if your line has gone onto fault conditions or if they could get openreach or whoever to perform a ip profile reset

This is where they tell the computers "this line just got installed see what it can do" at that point if you are now using all your equipment properly you should get a new sync speed. Then DO NOT de sync the router for 10 days, if at this point your sync speeds are lower than what you want (or essp if they are lower than what any information BT or who ever have given you) then call up and tell them you have had a reset on your line and that they need to get you a broadband boost, its a service they do.

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Anything too add or calirfy from anyone :) ?
 
thanks for all the replies, Will be leaving my connection connected for 72 hours then see what happens.

however, my sync speed has now dropped to 3680kbps but the SNR is the same? :confused: heeeeeelp meh please :L
 
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