Appealing university grades

[sports_brah]

Thanks for the replies.

I know it's a long shot but I'm going to give it a try. I had exceptional circumstances that affected my second year a lot (hell I wasn't even able to take a 12 credit exam which was not accounted for ).

3rd year, granted I did not work as hard as I could, but again, I had compounding factors on top of issues that were my fault.

My grades have ranged from 0%-75% and it is very clear where I was affected by things as my grades were very low, and everything else, even with very little work and usual late penalties, ranged from 65-75%.

On top of this, the university has messed me around massively and created a uniquely unfair situation for myself which disadvantaged me to everyone else.

Call it entitlement, but the reality of the world is that a 2:2 is going to get me nowhere, and for the sake of 1% I'm closing of most avenues.

I'm not defined by my grade, doing a degree was a poor decision I made, but I might as well try and get the most I can out of it.

1%

 

[dfarrall]

If you had issues then you should have submitted mitagating circumstances, otherwise tough luck. Presume you already did though.

 

[FoxEye]

My grades have ranged from 0%-75% and it is very clear where I was affected by things as my grades were very low, and everything else, even with very little work and usual late penalties, ranged from 65-75%.

By your own admission, then, you could have got a 2:1 if you'd worked harder. You might have had periods where you couldn't do better, but if you'd worked harder in the 'good times', you'd be looking at a 2:1 (or higher!).

This isn't a criticism, just an analysis of the cold, hard, reality. You could have got that 2:1 with more effort.

 

[[FnG]magnolia]

On top of this, the university has messed me around massively and created a uniquely unfair situation for myself which disadvantaged me to everyone else.

Would an impartial observer agree with this sentence?

 

[Tunney]

You're right, a 2:2 doesn't sound too appealing.

 

[prashantnew]

In think my old uni had a system where, if you were 0.7% away from a higher banding, they would award you the higher banding. Eg a 2.2 would be rounded up to a 2.1.

 

[craptakular]

How sad, some of the best engineers i have come across are those who did a apprenticeship, did a HNC part time and are now running budgets that would make your eyes bleed.

All a 2:1 does it open up a couple of extra doors and a excuse for HR to justify themselves in the modern world

Same, I got a 2:2 from a top university, it never held me back. I now earn good money with prospects.

Maybe life is different in 2013. I finished my degree a decade ago.

Tbh, once you get a job, your degree is then meaningless. You then get other jobs from your work experience and attitude towards work.

 

[N19h7m4r3]

I'm still waiting on my results, but I would certainly appeal if I was 1% or less away from a better grade.

I was personally aiming for a First, but after my team research project went upside down, I know my First is going to be extremely difficult to get.

One thing I have noticed when applying to grad schemes, positions and entrence positions is that grades mean everything in Ireland.

I have to not only submit final grades, but year by year subject grades, and even my leaving cert grades. In quite a few cases Leaving Cert points are used as the first cut off mark. meaning you can get rejected before your Degree grades even come into the matter.

 

[Dis86]

Same, I got a 2:2 from a top university, it never held me back. I now earn good money with prospects.

Maybe life is different in 2013. I finished my degree a decade ago.

Tbh, once you get a job, your degree is then meaningless. You then get other jobs from your work experience and attitude towards work.

Lol true dat, true.

My latest job never even asked to see my degree cert.

 

[sports_brah]

Would an impartial observer agree with this sentence?

The university has already admitted they made a huge balls up. They just haven't done anything to rectify it. And yes, I would say that people would agree.

By your own admission, then, you could have got a 2:1 if you'd worked harder. You might have had periods where you couldn't do better, but if you'd worked harder in the 'good times', you'd be looking at a 2:1 (or higher!).

This isn't a criticism, just an analysis of the cold, hard, reality. You could have got that 2:1 with more effort.

I should have done better, truth be told, on the few pieces of work I did right I got straight firsts. However I made mistakes and lost focus along with other issues. I just want to mitigate my damage now, which is surely reasonable even if you don't agree?

Same, I got a 2:2 from a top university, it never held me back. I now earn good money with prospects.

Maybe life is different in 2013. I finished my degree a decade ago.

Tbh, once you get a job, your degree is then meaningless. You then get other jobs from your work experience and attitude towards work.

The world is VERY different. Most graduate jobs don't even give a look in, and there is a general stigma attached. Don't get me wrong, if it stays a 2:2, I'm not going to let it get me massively down, I'll fight on anyway.

 

[One]

The world is VERY different. Most graduate jobs don't even give a look in, and there is a general stigma attached. Don't get me wrong, if it stays a 2:2, I'm not going to let it get me massively down, I'll fight on anyway.

It's not. Grad schemes are not always that good anyway. If you've not been stupid your CV should still sport a load of other interesting and relevant stuff that will make an employer gloss over your uni grade. Especially if you degree is in something useful. Knowing 50% of something useful is better than someone that knows 70% of something that's not useful. You might not be able to jump into a decent job straight off the bat but there is no reason you can't get there in 2-5 years.

 

[No1newts]

anything under a 2:1 is a fail in my book so get appealing.

a scraped 2:1 is hardly good tho, mine was the same

he is saying there might be a way to blag another % to >60%

I got a 2:2 (drinkers degree) and I'm doing mighty find in life thank you

The two people I know who got firsts are still Ming monging along as interns and paralegals. Bwahahahahahaaaaaaa!!!

 

[No1newts]

Lol true dat, true.

My latest job never even asked to see my degree cert.

Both my jobs never asked.

Now I know in my career path (and in all likelihood any career path) they couldn't give two shakes of a doggies dangly bits about a degree. It's about competence (personal and job related) and attitude.

 

[qqg3]

mighty find

Still in the pub?

 

[Judgeneo]

It's not. Grad schemes are not always that good anyway. If you've not been stupid your CV should still sport a load of other interesting and relevant stuff that will make an employer gloss over your uni grade. Especially if you degree is in something useful. Knowing 50% of something useful is better than someone that knows 70% of something that's not useful. You might not be able to jump into a decent job straight off the bat but there is no reason you can't get there in 2-5 years.

My 2.2 cost my my £40k p/a grad scheme (had signed the contract).

Since then I've started a masters, and am currently hovering just above a distinction, but most of the companies I speak to say they have a blanket policy of 2.1 in undergraduate degrees - irrelevant of other factors.

It matters a lot

 

[inogen]

It's horrible getting worse marks than you wanted. Esp when it's due to not working hard enough. My A Level results were rubbish. I didn't expect to do anywhere near as badly as I did. Quite a shock.

On the other hand I thought I'd done much worse in my degree. I failed my 1st year (quite an achievement), had to wait a year to hand some coursework which I didn't complete. Basically a year out, still living at Uni, student lifestyle with no course to attend... Then was again nearly thrown out after my second year. Was called "the biggest waste of a University place" by one of my senior lecturers. I ended up with a 2:1.

 

[Rainagul]

My 2.2 cost my my £40k p/a grad scheme (had signed the contract).

Since then I've started a masters, and am currently hovering just above a distinction, but most of the companies I speak to say they have a blanket policy of 2.1 in undergraduate degrees - irrelevant of other factors.

It matters a lot

Think it all depends on what sort of field your work is in, personally I've landed an awesome job that didn't care about what sort of grades I was getting as I had the experience and attitude that set me apart.

 

[craptakular]

Why are all you youngsters obsessed with grad schemes?

Why not get a job in your field?

I have a science degree, started out in a government dept, then went onwards and upwards in the private sector.

 

[Gammawolf]

Why are all you youngsters obsessed with grad schemes?

Why not get a job in your field?

I have a science degree, started out in a government dept, then went onwards and upwards in the private sector.

Because thats where all the money is at. It instantly puts you at the 30k wage at minimum.

 

[N19h7m4r3]

Why are all you youngsters obsessed with grad schemes?

Why not get a job in your field?

I have a science degree, started out in a government dept, then went onwards and upwards in the private sector.

It's not all just grad schemes, everything I apply for, even just a minimum desk IT desk lately asks an awful lot, and have 2:1's as minimums. This is in Ireland for me though.

One thing I have noticed when applying to grad schemes, positions and entrence positions is that grades mean everything in Ireland.

I have to not only submit final grades, but year by year subject grades, and even my leaving cert grades. In quite a few cases Leaving Cert points are used as the first cut off mark. meaning you can get rejected before your Degree grades even come into the matter.