Apple leaves EPEAT

MagicBoy · 7 Jul 2012 at 10:23

http://www.epeat.net/2012/06/news/apple-leaves-epeat/

Bone headed stupid idiots. There goes a chunk of the business and education sectors. Apple's transformation into a self-perpetuating retail-led shiny trinket company is now complete.

Deleted member 77746 · 7 Jul 2012 at 11:00

oh dear.... Does this mean their products may never be green again.

shine · 7 Jul 2012 at 11:03

The Retina MBP is not compliant with the current certification requirements. They had no choice to withdraw unless they delayed the rMBP until they could create a design that was compliant:

http://ifixit.org/2884/apple-ditches-green-standard-cuts-off-federal-agencies-from-apple-products/

MagicBoy · 7 Jul 2012 at 11:12

Cheers, I wasn't aware of the iFixit take.

Deleted member 77746 · 7 Jul 2012 at 11:18

oh dear.

LordSplodge · 7 Jul 2012 at 12:03

Might cause an issue for schools and businesses (mostly American public sector) that require EPEAT.

Other than that it's only the hippies that will be crying into their soya over this.

fez · 7 Jul 2012 at 13:42

LordSplodge said:
Might cause an issue for schools and businesses (mostly American public sector) that require EPEAT.

Other than that it's only the hippies that will be crying into their soya over this.

Do a company have to have every product meeting their standards to comply with EPEAT?

Why can't they still sell the standard MBP etc as they are obviously fine.

Dewotter · 7 Jul 2012 at 13:48

According to Macrumors iOS devices aren't affected by this.

LordSplodge · 7 Jul 2012 at 14:05

fez said:
Do a company have to have every product meeting their standards to comply with EPEAT?

Why can't they still sell the standard MBP etc as they are obviously fine.

No idea.

Skyboat · 7 Jul 2012 at 16:37

Their fault for fixing the battery to the chassis with industrial strength glue. Why can't they just design a better way of attaching it?

hartgeh3 · 7 Jul 2012 at 17:15

Skyboat said:
Their fault for fixing the battery to the chassis with industrial strength glue. Why can't they just design a better way of attaching it?

They aint got money to burn ya know

StevenG · 8 Jul 2012 at 10:38

Glueing the battery was the best way to attach it to keep the chassis as thin as possible & allow for more battery in a smaller place.

They explained that it was done because mounting any other way would require more brackets and internal construction which would take away from the thin design, cant remember where i heard this, might have been in the keynote.

StevenG

Glaucus · 8 Jul 2012 at 10:40

Skyboat said:
Their fault for fixing the battery to the chassis with industrial strength glue. Why can't they just design a better way of attaching it?

As said size.
A bracket even a thin one still adds width.

theheyes · 8 Jul 2012 at 11:06

Would people give up a couple of mm for something that was a lot more environmentally friendly? I would.

Glaucus · 8 Jul 2012 at 11:08

theheyes said:
Would people give up a couple of mm for something that was a lot more environmentally friendly? I would.

Most people don't care, most people won't even know what EPEAT is, the only affect this has is on government departments which need that rating. It's also hardly much more inviromentaly worse either.
These standards IMO are pretty useless and we need government intervention, so many simple things we could change. But don't. You just have too look at the world of packaging for a start.

LordSplodge · 8 Jul 2012 at 11:47

Skyboat said:
Their fault for fixing the battery to the chassis with industrial strength glue. Why can't they just design a better way of attaching it?

Why don't you write and email to Apple showing how you can design a better way? I'm sure they'd be keen to hear from you.

theheyes said:
Would people give up a couple of mm for something that was a lot more environmentally friendly? I would.

I wouldn't. These arbitrary standards are junk anyway. Given the level of nasty stuff inside most computers it doesn't make much difference anyway.

StevenG · 8 Jul 2012 at 11:54

LordSplodge said:
I wouldn't. These arbitrary standards are junk anyway. Given the level of nasty stuff inside most computers it doesn't make much difference anyway.

Me either, i mean as stated above there are many things that need to be improved upon before deciding that because a battery is glued in place its not eco friendly.

StevenG

theheyes · 8 Jul 2012 at 12:13

Well by that logic I should stop recycling my rubbish, because there are many things that need improving and it doesn't make much difference anyway.

MagicBoy · 8 Jul 2012 at 12:15

They're a bit deal in the public sector and corporate world as it makes the secondhand kit worth more, easier/cheaper to recycle. If the product spec says EPEAT and Apple can't meet it then they could lose the education market.

Glaucus · 8 Jul 2012 at 12:16

theheyes said:
Well by that logic I should stop recycling my rubbish, because there are many things that need improving and it doesn't make much difference anyway.

Not at all.
It's about weighing it up and a battery stuck to a board is not a massive environmental harm, especially when it looks like the rest of the computer would pass.