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Apple M1 Pro and M1 Max

Grim5 said:
News time: If you take the M1 Max chip and turn upside down and photograph it (with the right tools) you can see that the chip has an interconnected die on one side and this detail was never shown in any of the marketing materials.

So Apple has already been playing with interconnects and it's possible that the M2/M3 are MCM CPUs capable of performance that is 2x to 4x greater than the M1 Max
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Yeah, they're going to put multiple M1/M2 Max into the same machine for iMac Pro/Mac Pro.

=XDC=FluphyBunny said:
Just catching up on this thread. Amazing chips from Apple. Will be the goto choice for many looking at video editing and other specific use cases.

A side note:
I love watching people make a complete **** of themselves. Cheers jigger.
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Let's see if jigger will ever return to this topic :D
 
Of course I will. Hardware stands on it technology, technology drives sales and markets. The days of gaming laptops are numbered. They are pointless.

=XDC=FluphyBunny said:
Just catching up on this thread. Amazing chips from Apple. Will be the goto choice for many looking at video editing and other specific use cases.

A side note:
I love watching people make a complete **** of themselves. Cheers jigger.
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Yeah, I’ve been saying that for a while. It’s good you’ve caught up.
 
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jigger said:
Of course I will. Hardware stands on it technology, technology drives sales and markets. The days of gaming laptops are numbered. They are pointless.
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Except for…gaming.The ARM tech is great, along with the SOC setup, but we’re a long way away from mainstream adoption.
 
=XDC=FluphyBunny said:
oh good grief you were serious
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Was thinking the same.

Mesai said:
Except for…gaming.The ARM tech is great, along with the SOC setup, but we’re a long way away from mainstream adoption.
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Highest performance graphics chip per watt by a huge way. Apple aren’t getting caught in graphics performance anytime soon. The market will want to leverage what Apple have. Demand is already huge.
 
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Mesai said:
Except for…gaming.The ARM tech is great, along with the SOC setup, but we’re a long way away from mainstream adoption.
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It's a chicken and egg situation, gamers won't buy into the Apple eco system because games aren't coded to run Apple's API and developers won't write games for Apple as it lacks the install base.
 
Freddie1980 said:
It's a chicken and egg situation, gamers won't buy into the Apple eco system because games aren't coded to run Apple's API and developers won't write games for Apple as it lacks the install base.
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Not just that - there is the whole ecosystem around games, modding, companion programs, people combining other non-gaming tasks with gaming where it is still very Windows centric.

Not to mention even native the graphics performance in actual games of these devices is a little down even on my fairly realistic expectations and for non-native games way way down compared to a gaming laptop.
 
Freddie1980 said:
It's a chicken and egg situation, gamers won't buy into the Apple eco system because games aren't coded to run Apple's API and developers won't write games for Apple as it lacks the install base.
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This is actually what stops me from buying into macOS. For work, macOS would be great (development), but I’d still need my Windows PC for games. Now I just dual boot Linux and Windows, which meets both requirements.
 
Rroff said:
Not just that - there is the whole ecosystem around games, modding, companion programs, people combining other non-gaming tasks with gaming where it is still very Windows centric.

Not to mention even native the graphics performance in actual games of these devices is a little down even on my fairly realistic expectations and for non-native games way way down compared to a gaming laptop.
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None of this matters to jigger, he's off in lala land.
 
Mesai said:
This is actually what stops me from buying into macOS. For work, macOS would be great (development), but I’d still need my Windows PC for games. Now I just dual boot Linux and Windows, which meets both requirements.
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That's what I used to do before I got my first Mac. Then decided to just have a separate gaming PC.
 
HACO said:
That's what I used to do before I got my first Mac. Then decided to just have a separate gaming PC.
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Might give it a go next year once the M2 series is out and more platforms are using native instead of Intel. Linux has been great though.
 
ZP9 said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHUF8A2vpos&t=1s

M1 Max getting stomped here by alder lake, at least on raw CPU power based on the vastly superior benchmark (cinebench R23). Skip to about 1 minute for exact numbers
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The hyperbole click bait title of this video is "This Laptop is faster than your Desktop"

Well lets analyse that, it scores around 18,000, R23, and that's what he's talking about, it does this at 115 Watts, The same power consumption as a 16 core 32 thread 5950X. So if you have a 5950X running at stock (scores 29,000) your desktop blows this out of the water by 60% while using the same amount of power.

The performance for a Laptop is impressive, but only because its running at high end Desktop power levels, and in that sense this is a really bad CPU.
 
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