April NPD figures

msmalls74 said:
Sony Made $590million + this year in profit, thats a fact. Less than last year due to the PS3 and the laptop battery recall, but Sony Stocks highest for 5 years.

sony or sony's gaming division ? completly different
 
Nzyme said:
sony or sony's gaming division ? completly different

Microsoft or Microsoft Entertainment division? I thought the statement was microsoft makes loads of money and sony dont? As i havent seen Microsoft Entermaint making any money for what 6-7 years now?
 
msmalls74 said:
Microsoft or Microsoft Entertainment division? I thought the statement was microsoft makes loads of money and sony dont? As i havent seen Microsoft Entermaint making any money for what 6-7 years now?

it was a legitamate question i wondered which you ment cause i thought it was interesting is that so ahrd to believe ?
 
Joebob said:
utter crap... I class myself as a true gamer (when I get the time) and I'm also a graphics hoar. I just love the advancement of technology and games - the Wii is selling purely on hype at the moment, and IMO it's a fad which will definately fade given about a year. The fact that Nintendo are expanding the market is the very problem which will come back to bite them in the ass, when all the old grannies who think it's such fun and the must have new thing put in into the cupboard under the stairs alongside their breadmaker and slow cooker.

I got caught up in the Wii hype myself and thought "ooh I must get one iot looks such fun" and it was fun for about two weeks but then the novalty wore off and I remembered I dont actually like most of Nintendo's IP's! I still cuss myself for following the flocks!!!

Dude what are you on!! :eek:

Even IF the Wii IS a fad people love it for the gameplay cause its fun, I mean look at the DS lite its selling loads and always gets a great price on resale too. It aint a graphics engine its just pure pick up and play fun.

If the PSP hadnt had all the extra features that its does im sure as a handheld games machine it would have bombed even though it has superior graphics to the DS.

Gaphics arent all that as long as a game has awsome gameplay and looks alright peole love it.

I mean look at tetris you 'graphics hoar'
 
Nzyme said:
it was a legitamate question i wondered which you ment cause i thought it was interesting is that so ahrd to believe ?

sorry wasnt ment to have a go if thats what you thought :) , Its just intersting that only part of a story is told rather than the full one. Seems to be a lot of SONY IS DOOMED LOL posts about without any real evidence, the PS3 not selling as well as hoped AT THIS TIME, is not the end of it. The PS3 has a 10 year life span (PS2 been around for 7 and still going strong), judge it in a year or two then see if its failed. Theres no way its going to dominate the market as the PS2 did, dont think anyone even sony thought the PS2 would do that well. I agree with most analysts who think it will about a 30%ish market share for all 3 consoles in the end.
 
would be interesting to know if Sony's gaming section is a seperate company owned by a holder company or if its a department of a large company
 
Nobody on these forums understands the wii and doubts its sales as hype, you all seem to forget that their console is not aimed at you, you're not buying it, their target audience is :P

The wii is good fun for everyone, it is not something I could have long term fun with regardless of the price. The 360 is my machine, but i wont knock the wii Nintendo are the kings of gaming entertainment and always have been. I also like the fact that Nintendo always have been and always will be a gaming company, they're not some miltinational conglmorate software/electronics company trying to get a piece of the gaming pie. One reason I miss sega so much :(
 
Nzyme said:
would be interesting to know if Sony's gaming section is a seperate company owned by a holder company or if its a department of a large company

The Sony Group a Japan-based corporate group primarily focused on the Electronics (such as AV/IT products & components), Game (such as PlayStation), Entertainment (such as motion pictures and music), and Financial Services (such as insurance and banking) sectors. The group consists of Sony Corporation (holding & electronics), Sony Computer Entertainment (game), Sony Pictures Entertainment (motion pictures), Sony BMG Music Entertainment (music), Sony Financial Holdings (financial services) and others.
 
Nzyme said:
is it the same for microsoft ?

Near enough Microsoft was split into these groups. Windows Client, MSN and Server and Tool groups were merged into the Microsoft Platform Products & Services Division; the Information Worker and Microsoft Business Solutions groups were merged into the Microsoft Business Division; and the Mobile and Embedded Devices and Home and Entertainment groups were merged into the Microsoft Entertainment and Devices Division.
For the Record not that it makes much difference Annual Revenue for 2006 Microsoft was $44 billion and Sony Group $68 Billion, and there still not the biggest corparations in the World
 
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msmalls74 said:
Near enough Microsoft was split into these groups. Windows Client, MSN and Server and Tool groups were merged into the Microsoft Platform Products & Services Division; the Information Worker and Microsoft Business Solutions groups were merged into the Microsoft Business Division; and the Mobile and Embedded Devices and Home and Entertainment groups were merged into the Microsoft Entertainment and Devices Division.


So is it fair to say both companies make reasonable profits overall, but both are held back by their respective gaming/entertainment divisions. For MS the Xbox has lead to big losses by the entertainment division for 6 yrs. And for Sony the Playstation division has been making money, but has posted a loss for the first time this year?

Incidentally I think Sony are a larger company than MS overall, in terms of revenue, but MS are bigger in terms of profit. Not certain.


rp2000
 
rp2000 said:
So is it fair to say both companies make reasonable profits overall, but both are held back by their respective gaming/entertainment divisions.
rp2000

microsoft have stated they dont intend to make a profit for some years tho haven't they ?
 
Nzyme said:
microsoft have stated they dont intend to make a profit for some years tho haven't they ?


Agreed, but Sony planned a loss due to PS3 this year (for the Playstation division), I think.


rp2000
 
rp2000 said:
Agreed, but Sony planned a loss due to PS3 this year (for the Playstation division), I think.


rp2000

would have thought so, would have thought they plan to make a loss for a while atleast
 
Nzyme said:
microsoft have stated they dont intend to make a profit for some years tho haven't they ?
LOL, yeah and of course Sony were planning on selling their consoles at a $200 loss per unit and you think they planned on making a profit this year? :confused:
 
lowrider007 said:
woooooo chill out mate, people really do get worked up in here sometimes, call my post crap all day mate It ain't gonna change my opinion, not atm anyway, you only have to look at those sales figures to see people in generule (not you as your special needs :p ) care more about gameplay than graphics, I'm not saying they don't care about graphcs at all but atm ps2/wii type graphics are definitly more than acceptible for a majority of people, I have many friends with a ps2 and are not changing any time soon, they just don't buy into all this hd crap tbh, it's hard on here to get a genarule consensus on this type of subject though really as most of us on here are more into the whole high end tech gadget side of things,

saying that though would be intresting to see what people would vote for,

poll anyone ?

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?p=9350420#post9350420
Every now and again somebody types something so stupid that I just have to type a reply which winds people up.... this time it was yours :D
 
Joebob said:
Every now and again somebody types something so stupid that I just have to type a reply which winds people up.... this time it was yours :D

I often find when people try to be witty on these forums in a reply to someones post just shows a lack of intelligence more than anything, instead of winning credibility in thier previous post they try to win out with a silly comment like yours, you may as well be a pain of glass :rolleyes:,

sillyness is thinking that every gamer on the planet has the same opinion as you do, just b-cos your a graphics hoar does'nt mean everyone else is, and I can pretty guarantee outside of a tech forum the genrule concensus would lean much more towards gameplay than graphics, anyone with an ounce of common sense would agree.

the facts are atm, nintendo are topping the sales chart in pretty much every country atm and at the same time the ds light and the wii have the worst gaphics out of all the main stream consoles.

anyhow, I'm off to hunt down f-zero for me cube :cool: :D
 
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