Are curved TV's dead?

Psycho Sonny said:
PC users want curved IPS panels.

TV users want flat VA panels.

TV users say they sit head on so don't need viewing angles then why wouldn't you want curved? PC users supposedly sit at an angle therefore they want IPS however why would they also want curved?

Basically it should be IPS and Flat or VA and Curved.

Both markets seem to be confused.

Would I buy a curved screen? Yes I would for my bedroom or gaming setups. For my living room though it will need to be flat.
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No, TV users should want flat OLED panels :D

I have a curved gaming monitor (34" Ultrawide 100hz) which makes sense as I sit close and the curve fills my peripheral vision.
 
Curved TVs are a gimmick. I always thought "why ?".

3D was also a gimmick, but less so. At least it did sometimes provide some benefit for the viewer. I've never looked at a curved TV and thought "that's better than a flat TV". I suppose it looks different though, and some people prefer style over substance.
 
VincentHanna said:
No, TV users should want flat OLED panels :D
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Rather than an oled ;)I would have quite liked a genuine QLED emissive tv (better HDR/brightness, no burn), but from the CES announcements Samsung who bought the tech are not yet announcing anything, and now, abusing the terminology a bit, to try and regain ground versus LG oleds.

The big news is that Samsung has decided to ditch the “SUHD TV” branding it has trumpeted over the past couple of years, choosing to go with “QLED TV” instead from this year onwards. Whereas previously the term “QLED” (or quantum dot light-emitting diode) had been used among video enthusiast communities to specifically refer to the self-emissive or electroluminescent variant, the South Korean manufacturer is pushing QLED as an umbrella product category term to encompass all televisions that use quantum dot technology regardless of whether it’s transmissive (photoluminescent) or emissive (electroluminescent), and regardless of whether it’s made by Samsung or not (similar to how an OLED TV can be sold by LG or other TV makers).

As you can probably guess by now, Samsung’s 2017 QLED TVs (including the flagship Q9F and step-down Q8C) are transmissive/ photoluminescent rather than emissive/ electroluminescent. However, Samsung claims that thanks to a complete panel restructure from scratch, as well as the introduction of a metallic alloy (specifically aluminium) component to the nano-sized quantum dots, the jump in picture quality is so great that the company felt justified in embracing the “QLED” moniker even though the underlying technology is non-emissive.
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Curlyriff said:
I am not sure on this, where has it been suggested that PC users sit at an angle to their screen? That would certainly not be the case for myself or anyone I know who all centrally locate their monitors.

On the other hand, home TV users often have arrangements of furniture so that maybe 2 people are central but two are at an angle to the TV due to our living room sizes. This would mean that it often isn't the case that people are viewing their TV centrally. Especially when you have guests over.

There is a big difference I think to what you are saying and what is reality.
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it happened the other month when I started asking questions.

the majority on here who buy tv's hate IPS screens due to poor black levels. when i mentioned viewing angles miraculously they all viewed head on and nobody cared for viewing angles.

I then said well how come PC users who want decent picture quality tend to opt for IPS screens, they then said it's because they usually view from an angle especially if 2 people are looking at the same screen.

in my mind the PC market should be filled with curved VA panels but this isn't the case a lot of people opt for IPS.

and the tv market should be filled with flat IPS panels for ultimate viewing angles however the majority opt for VA panels for black levels.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
it happened the other month when I started asking questions.

the majority on here who buy tv's hate IPS screens due to poor black levels. when i mentioned viewing angles miraculously they all viewed head on and nobody cared for viewing angles.

I then said well how come PC users who want decent picture quality tend to opt for IPS screens, they then said it's because they usually view from an angle especially if 2 people are looking at the same screen.

in my mind the PC market should be filled with curved VA panels but this isn't the case a lot of people opt for IPS.

and the tv market should be filled with flat IPS panels for ultimate viewing angles however the majority opt for VA panels for black levels.
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Hmm I think here is probably a very different segment in that only people who know more about home cinema & similar would be responding on a forum. The general public though on the other hand who is the majority market will be placing their TV in the living room.

I am going from working in architectural design for homes and interior design layouts I see day to day from house builders etc which almost always do not have central locations for sofa/tv positions and they like to show them in the corner out the way.
 
Curlyriff said:
Hmm I think here is probably a very different segment in that only people who know more about home cinema & similar would be responding on a forum. The general public though on the other hand who is the majority market will be placing their TV in the living room.

I am going from working in architectural design for homes and interior design layouts I see day to day from house builders etc which almost always do not have central locations for sofa/tv positions and they like to show them in the corner out the way.
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the way both markets work is baffling.

i have a flat IPS in my living room for ultimate viewing angles. nobody in my living room can watch the tv head on. it's the 1 compromise i had to make for this house as it was the best house I'd seen in 2 years of looking.

so i have it on an articulated arm and when i'm the only one watching tv i swing it out from it's hidden area and face it towards me so i view head on. when i have company i have to push it back and flat and then everyone views it side on. IPS was the only choice for me. until they make a 4K 10 bit 43" OLED that is.
 
They probably were a gimmick but ours sits in a curved bay window in front of a carved radiator, so for us it worked :)
 
I have a couple of curved Sammy panels (65 and 78 inch).

100% a gimmick.

But.....from an aesthetics point of view I like it. In my house the TVs are a furniture piece and I like the curved look.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
TV users say they sit head on so don't need viewing angles then why wouldn't you want curved? PC users supposedly sit at an angle therefore they want IPS however why would they also want curved?.
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Any curve while seated 8 ft or more away is completely pointless and doesnt (imo) improve anything

Dont know about anyone else but I sit straight compared to a PC monitor
 
FrankJH said:
Any curve while seated 8 ft or more away is completely pointless and doesnt (imo) improve anything

Dont know about anyone else but I sit straight compared to a PC monitor
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Then why are IMAX screens curved? If it doesn't improve anything?

This is what i was saying to the people who I was questioning their logic with. I sit straight on to a pc monitor and they were stating that most people view their screens at an angle which baffled me tbh. It was their only way of explaining why IPS is so popular within PC monitors over VA. And the only way of explaining why VA is more popular over IPS in TV's is that majority sit straight onto them. Which again is baffling to me.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
Then why are IMAX screens curved? If it doesn't improve anything?.
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BOLLLLLLLLLLL - thats funny, you arent being serious surely?

I know the distances are also greater, but given even large TV's are for the most part < 80" - and usually 30-40% less compared to 30-40 ft or whatever its not really comparable at all


Even in proportion to distance Imax screens are massvive compared to tv's so the curve will have more impact
 
FrankJH said:
BOLLLLLLLLLLL - thats funny, you arent being serious surely?

I know the distances are also greater, but given even large TV's are for the most part < 80" - and usually 30-40% less compared to 30-40 ft or whatever its not really comparable at all


Even in proportion to distance Imax screens are massvive compared to tv's so the curve will have more impact
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"Any curve while seated 8 ft or more away is completely pointless and doesnt (imo) improve anything"

so now your saying the above isn't true?

Well my friend has a 75" curved tv about 8 feet away in his living room. Still not as big or in proportion to a cinema. however I have no idea how beneficial the slight curve was. it looked great but his tv was several £K.

I think curved tv's are fine regardless of size. IMAX uses them so they cannot be as bad as people make out. However it is true that on cheap curved sets there are issues.

I don't own a curved tv but that is because the only time i was in the market for a new tv since they came out it wouldn't suit the space that I had (hidden inside a wall) or suit the viewing angles needed.
 
Well an IMAX screen at IMAX Ratio (1.43:1) would make the BFI IMAX About 1250 inches diagonal for a start.

It's more like sitting 4ft from a Large screen TV in a house. The closer you are to a screen the more a curve makes sense.
 
i've never heard that before. i've heard people spout rubbish about how 4k only makes sense if it's a large screen and your sitting right in front of it.

however i have never heard you need to be 4 foot away from a 75" tv for a curved tv to make sense. i don't think i could sit 4 foot away from any 75" tv. have you seen a 75" tv in the flesh?

a curved makes sense if you are sitting head on give or take a few degrees here and there, regardless of distance or size.
 
I don't think they were ever 'in' to really die a death.

I bought a 65 curved not because it was curved, but because that was the model of the TV I wanted and you could only get it curved. It does look pretty sweet, but I can't say i've ever felt more immersed.
 
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