Arizona nine-year old in Uzi gun lesson accident

[Tombo]

I was talking about fully automatic guns, most people will be carrying semi-automatic pistols. Home defence can be stuff like shotguns and rifles but you could see how a fully automatic weapon might be a problem in your home.

 

[Rroff]

I don't know a PDW is a fairly decent type of gun,
P90
MP5

No one is going to use a p90 for home defense (other than maybe criminals), the penetration on that thing would make it way too unsafe.

 

[OhEsEcks]

No one is going to use a p90 for home defense (other than maybe criminals), the penetration on that thing would make it way too unsafe.

Over penetration is a problem right down to pistols simply because of what the majority of American houses are made from (timber frame, partition studs). Apparently the P90 round actually poses less of a risk of over penetration than 9mm rounds due to it losing more of it's velocity at a much shorter range than 9mm rounds. Add in hollow points and the 5.27x28mm is probably a safer round / weapon in a home environment.

Edit: Here's Hickok45 with a video on the FN Five Seven. Pistol that uses the 5.27x28mm ammunition that the P90 uses.

 

[porushinobu]

No one is going to use a p90 for home defense (other than maybe criminals), the penetration on that thing would make it way too unsafe.

still a better example than that Uzi though, regardless

 

[shaank]

Some utter tripe being spouted in this thread.

GD yo. there are loads of other threads that are far, far more tripey

 

[shaank]

I dunno.

I can see how a 9yr old girl would need to engage 20+ people in close quarters combat. Arizona is a tough place. It's worse than the Gaza Strip you know.

My son turns 4 next May then he's going to start RPG training. Just never know when you got to take down an APC on the mean streets of Nottingham.

Robin Hood style, but a modern twist, an RPG'ing kid?

 

[porushinobu]

Robin Hood style, but a modern twist, an RPG'ing kid?

looks like I will be steering clear of nottingham for a while. those sherwood bandits are getting far too well armed

 

[Tombo]

Over penetration is a problem right down to pistols simply because of what the majority of American houses are made from (timber frame, partition studs). Apparently the P90 round actually poses less of a risk of over penetration than 9mm rounds due to it losing more of it's velocity at a much shorter range than 9mm rounds. Add in hollow points and the 5.27x28mm is probably a safer round / weapon in a home environment.

I doubt it's going to lose enough velocity to stop it going through a wall at about 20 feet or less.

 

[OhEsEcks]

I doubt it's going to lose enough velocity to stop it going through a wall at about 20 feet or less.

Entirely depends on what it hits / passes through, grain count and whether it's an FMJ or dum dum.