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Arnold Clark - PCP (returning vehicle?)

Basically at this point you neeed to pay someone qualified enough to inspect the car, to see if there is a major/seriois fault, if you do, and the expert confirms there is, then waive that in front of them and at that stage they take the car back or you go legal, and probably win.

Otherwise it's your (non expert) word against theirs.
 
Sounds like a big nothing burger tbh

Mine? Or op? I'm not asking them to take my car back and give me a refund, I'm asking them to pay the for the discs to be changed, because they should have been during the auc prep, and I'm certainly am not paying £1700 to change them after 300 miles of ownership on a relatively expensive 2 year old 7.5k mile car bought BMW approved used
 
Mine? Or op? I'm not asking them to take my car back and give me a refund, I'm asking them to pay the for the discs to be changed, because they should have been during the auc prep, and I'm certainly am not paying £1700 to change them after 300 miles of ownership on a relatively expensive 2 year old 7.5k mile car bought BMW approved used
Both of you. There's no way in hell a 2 year old bimmer needs 4 discs, and if it does, it should be a warranty claim. The lip doesn't indicate wear either, you need to measure the thickness of the disc itself. Did you get a formal report from BMW or did the 'service manager you're on first name terms with' just tell you what you wanted to hear because it had nothing to do with him?
 
The thickness is fine, the condition is not. Yes, I've seen the formal report.

Either way, this is BMW's problem. I bought it approved used and a BMW dealer tells me it needs them changing, BMW can can sort out who is wrong. Arnold Clark haven't even attempted to look at it, which is a major issue for me.
 
I also bought my car from Arnold Clark, and this seems typical. In general, if the car is in reasonable condition then AC is a good bargain. If there's anything wrong with it then their customer services go beyond awful into vindictive. Their general attitude is: we have your money, so **** you. In my case I test drove the car, and it was fine. Sold my old car the day I'd agreed to pick up the new one, which needed wheels refurbing and a service. The day I was due to collect it AC phoned to say it had failed an MOT due to a broken spring. Which was very odd, because they'd MOT'ed it two weeks earlier, before I drove it. Further, the spring certainly wasn't broken on the test drive: no noises, no weird steering or braking, nothing. But hey, broken spring. Except they wouldn't give me a courtesy car, and wouldn't even go halves on a hire car (bear in mind they have a hire car division). I even ended up talking to the local manager senior sales manager who essentially told me: you signed the paper, we stopped caring.

So I had to hire a car for a week at my own expense while they tried to find a spring. The good news is that it was a genuine Merc spring (which were then, and still are, really hard to find), the bad news is that the cheap ******* only replaced the one that broke, not the pair, so the other one broke eighteen months later. I'm pretty certain that the spring got broken when they had the wheels off for refurb - but I can't prove it.

The stupid thing is that there's a core of good service there at AC. But only until something goes wrong, then they screw you. The staff are great, and the woman who sold me the car spent ages apologising for her manager. But I will still never deal with them ever again. And I advise everyone else the same.
 
The thickness is fine, the condition is not. Yes, I've seen the formal report.

Either way, this is BMW's problem. I bought it approved used and a BMW dealer tells me it needs them changing, BMW can can sort out who is wrong. Arnold Clark haven't even attempted to look at it, which is a major issue for me.
Because there is nothing wrong with it lol. Next you'll be complaining they're rusted after it rains...
 
I've had the same issue as rG-Tom's car, Scottish car's get more corrosion from the road salt and if you don't do a lot of miles especially on the larger discs the inside face of them corrode on the outer area of the disc surface and can cause juddering under braking from high speed. I've changed discs for this reason the outer 30-40mm was corroded and unevenly worn the pad when the disc thickness was fine.

The ever increasing trend of putting larger discs on when you are up to 340mm+ (I'd guess the 550 likely has 370-380mm discs) the outer area of the disc get's a lot less wear from the pads than the inner part near the hub.

I have found a few high speed stops every so often keep on top of this normally but particularly my wife's car where it's mainly used around town the outer area of the inner disc surface was starting to corrode in less than a year.
 
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thought they said they would replace pads
gesture of goodwill, they would replace them with the parts. They have said they will order the correct pads and have them fitted...?
and they'd foot bill for paintwork - what's the issue where paint wasn't as you'd thought when test-driving
the paint can't be done and needs to be booked in at an independent paint shop.
 
It's matt paintwork; we identified before purchasing that it had been buffed on one side, thus removing the matt finish and making it metallic/shiny. They said this would be fixed at a body shop. When collecting it was raining, and we were assured it was done. The next day, when it was dry, it was worse than before. They told us they had buffed it... thus making it worse. They said they had contacted an independent body shop and were waiting for an appointment. They then told us they hadn't booked it in yet due to wanting to sort out the mechanical faults first. They then said they had booked it in, this was then changed, saying they hadn't etc etc etc.

Regarding the brakes, they initially said had put the wrong brake pads on and didn't have to change them due to it being wear and tear, but as a gesture of goodwill, they would do it. They then retracted this and refused to change them.
 
I hate to say it but I doubt there is much you can do, hopefully you didn't buy any kind of service package or extended warranty from them as neither of those will be worth anything either.
 
They then retracted this and refused to change them.
why do you think they retracted - have they realised you are serious about trying to return the car - so don't want to incur any additional expense ?
if so, that could be a good thing, themselves acknowledging they are in the wrong, and you will probably be successful -
so involving the finance company and getting some formal communication from them to AC may give you the win.
 
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