Arsenal 'target of £1.5bn takeover'

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I'm not sure I want Arsenal to go down the path of Man City, but something has to give at Arsneal.

What doesnt make sense tho, is the Financial Fair play rules come in to force soon, so Arsenal wont have time to spend the money which Man City and Chelsea have done... whic is a bit unfair really!
 
Arsenal wouldn't need to build a brand new team though like City and Chelsea needed to IMO. 1/2 top players in, get rid of a lot of the rubbish and replace with good, solid squad players. The actual first team is very close IMO, it's just the squad players that are pony, in most cases.

Edit: Also, I don't see a problem with a takeover at Arsenal, as long as the new owners are sensible, and don't just throw money at problems.
 
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I can see why a takeover isn't out of the question - if nothing else as of this season it's a perfectly viable business - on track to bring in 30-50 million a year profit purely from the footballing business and there's a lot of headroom when it comes to increasing commercial revenue too.

On the other hand because it's a perfectly viable business it'll need a pretty hefty bid to get it out of the owners' hands and I can't see them going for any form of debt-leveraging deal so it would be Arab cash or nothing I suspect :p
 
Arsenal wouldn't need to build a brand new team though like City and Chelsea needed to IMO. 1/2 top players in, get rid of a lot of the rubbish and replace with good, solid squad players. The actual first team is very close IMO, it's just the squad players that are pony, in most cases.

Edit: Also, I don't see a problem with a takeover at Arsenal, as long as the new owners are sensible, and don't just throw money at problems.

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A few years ago I don't think any of the fans would want this to happen but with the way we're currently playing and all the 'crisis' talk going around I wouldn't be surprised to see some fans wanting this. I'd hate for us to become another City/Chelsea, I'd rather we settled for 4th place every year but if they're going to be sensible about it it may not be a bad thing. However looking at how much they're offering for the shares, it looks like another rich owner wanting to throw money at something.

TBH I doubt Kroenke/Usmanov would sell so it probably wouldn't happen.
 
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TBH I doubt Kroenke/Usmanov would sell so it probably wouldn't happen.

This seems to be the case.

However, if it did happen, Arsenal could be hugely improved with a handful of new players, they have enough of a squad to rotate against weaker sides, they just can't compete at the very top end.
 
This seems to be the case.

However, if it did happen, Arsenal could be hugely improved with a handful of new players, they have enough of a squad to rotate against weaker sides, they just can't compete at the very top end.

Usmanov is supposedly being lined up as part of it - so its only Kroenke that needs to be convinved (Im not suggesting its likely to happen because of this)

I agree though - Arsenal need more than just "two or three players" to be a very top team (again)
 
What doesnt make sense tho, is the Financial Fair play rules come in to force soon, so Arsenal wont have time to spend the money which Man City and Chelsea have done... whic is a bit unfair really!

What rules? What will happen if they spend 200million in 6 months? Nothing that's what will happen. You really think they are going to remove the best clubs from playing in the champions league when they spent so much time making it The tournament at the expense of any quality in world cup football?

Anyone really think if Arsenal spent and built the best team that won the title for 6 years on the trot that they would be excluded and devalue the champions league omitting the best teams in an area?

Not a chance, if anything they should be allowed to continue and not allocate any prize money ;)
 
Article.

I'm not sure I want Arsenal to go down the path of Man City, but something has to give at Arsneal.

What doesnt make sense tho, is the Financial Fair play rules come in to force soon, so Arsenal wont have time to spend the money which Man City and Chelsea have done... whic is a bit unfair really!

FFP doesn't mean anything, one sponsorship deal, £80mil a season for the shirt, a new £50mil a year stadium sponsorship, job done. FFP won't effect any of the billionaire owners as they will just sponsor the team with insane money, negating any losses.

Arsenal wouldn't need to build a brand new team though like City and Chelsea needed to IMO. 1/2 top players in, get rid of a lot of the rubbish and replace with good, solid squad players. The actual first team is very close IMO, it's just the squad players that are pony, in most cases.

Edit: Also, I don't see a problem with a takeover at Arsenal, as long as the new owners are sensible, and don't just throw money at problems.

Arsenal need more than a few players, keeper isn't good enough, neither is Mert, Sagna, Gibbs, Diaby, Rosicky, Walcott, Gervinho, Arteta isn't young isn't the best DM and isn't very good going forwards anymore, Podolski could work longer term as a striker but isn't good enough on the wing and Giroud really hasn't shown he's got what it takes upfront.

Thats new players down the spine, keeper, cb, central midfield and central striker, and fullbacks, and wingers.

Ultimately the biggest difference would/should be a new manager who can get existing players playing better, same manager new players, would just bring in new players and continue to misuse them.

I can see why a takeover isn't out of the question - if nothing else as of this season it's a perfectly viable business - on track to bring in 30-50 million a year profit purely from the footballing business and there's a lot of headroom when it comes to increasing commercial revenue too.

On the other hand because it's a perfectly viable business it'll need a pretty hefty bid to get it out of the owners' hands and I can't see them going for any form of debt-leveraging deal so it would be Arab cash or nothing I suspect :p

Arsenal won't be posting a 30-50mil profit yearly, at all, they posted a £17mil profit, after having a £23 effective profit after player sales/purchases, our continuing(for at least two years) player purchase costs are 20+mil a year, but unlike last year we won't have £40mil to offset that. This year RVP/Song/Vela sales will likely leave us with a small profit, though have to see how new wages look on the books. Next season without any major player sales with income as it is now, we'd be looking at a likely 30mil loss, but with new sponsorship/tv money next year, that will likely take us back to around break even point.

TO make 30mil + profit I would think we'd need to sell Santi, and someone else. Our commercial income is very weak for a club our size/in our position, and our wages are conversely too high for a squad this week, club in our position. Drop 20mil wages on crap players who don't play, and increase our commercial by the same the other way and you have a decent business.
 
Why would anybody pay nearly 2.5 times the clubs market value to buy it?

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My Mistake nearly twice the clubs market value (was looking at old figures)
 
This seems to be the case.

However, if it did happen, Arsenal could be hugely improved with a handful of new players, they have enough of a squad to rotate against weaker sides, they just can't compete at the very top end.

This really, if they were allowed to spend 100m on players without having having to sell their best players first.. they would be very close to competing for honours in every comp.
 
As a lifelong Gunner, I think what Arsene says about Arsenal being a self sufficient club "who has money to spend if needed" can be very good considering the fair play rules coming in (although as with Man city there are ways around this as we seen with the 1 billion sponsorship deal). However, I - as many people, know that this is not to be done by selling our best players and raising ticket prices so this needs looking at again.

As for the 1.5 billion offer, I think it can be very good, as long as we do keep within the fair play rules and the new owners etc stick to Arsenal roots and keep the Arsenal spirit within the club and not throw 30/40 mill on a player who will last a couple years - if this makes sense. I would like to see Arsenal back at the top, fighting with Man Utd for the title as we did over many many years.

But having the option to invest in a player and be able to pay 30 mill without to much thought (as long as its a great player who will add something great to the team), as Man Utd do, i.e. with Ferdinand I believe, Rooney, etc.

As long as the deal is done right, and Arsenals core is kept, then maybe its the route to go, after all didn't David Dein favour Usmanov?
 
Not sure if i want us to be taken over by some middle eastern consortium plus i dont think Arsenal will want to be taken over. Look at Usmanov, russian billionaire who cant even get a seat on the board and hes been wanting to buy out Arsenal for quite a few yrs now.

Although it wouldnt necessarily be a bad thing as it would probably wipe out any of our debts, possibly bring down the price of tickets and obviously have more cash to spend on players and wages.

Like adam has said above, as long as its done right then i wouldnt mind seeing it happen. Chelsea, City and Utd are all owned by rich billionaires so maybe its time Arsenal joined that club as its now being shown that we can no longer compete with the sugar daddy clubs anymore.
 
Not sure if i want us to be taken over by some middle eastern consortium plus i dont think Arsenal will want to be taken over. Look at Usmanov, russian billionaire who cant even get a seat on the board and hes been wanting to buy out Arsenal for quite a few yrs now.

Although it wouldnt necessarily be a bad thing as it would probably wipe out any of our debts, possibly bring down the price of tickets and obviously have more cash to spend on players and wages.

Like adam has said above, as long as its done right then i wouldnt mind seeing it happen. Chelsea, City and Utd are all owned by rich billionaires so maybe its time Arsenal joined that club as its now being shown that we can no longer compete with the sugar daddy clubs anymore.

+1 Very true, especially with Usmanov and the board!
 
I think it is a good idea but to spend wisely not spend like city and chelsea. buy 2-3 40m players and that could really benefit arsenal as well as hiring Morinho to manage arsenal
 
Not sure if i want us to be taken over by some middle eastern consortium plus i dont think Arsenal will want to be taken over. Look at Usmanov, russian billionaire who cant even get a seat on the board and hes been wanting to buy out Arsenal for quite a few yrs now.

Although it wouldnt necessarily be a bad thing as it would probably wipe out any of our debts, possibly bring down the price of tickets and obviously have more cash to spend on players and wages.

Like adam has said above, as long as its done right then i wouldnt mind seeing it happen. Chelsea, City and Utd are all owned by rich billionaires so maybe its time Arsenal joined that club as its now being shown that we can no longer compete with the sugar daddy clubs anymore.

Your happy for Stan the man to be the owner though, Usmanov can't get a seat on the board because Stan is a nobber and wants to line his own pockets. Usmanov is like Abramovich...a genuine fan.
 
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Why would anybody pay nearly 2.5 times the clubs market value to buy it?

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My Mistake nearly twice the clubs market value (was looking at old figures)

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What figures have you been looking at to come up with this 'market value'? Only a handful of shares are ever available to buy at one time and these have sold for over £16k each at times. This offer is reportedly for £20k per share.
 
I'd rather us be self sufficient than have to rely on the billions of a sugar daddy.

Id like us to be that as well ie self sufficient but as the yrs have gone by, its becoming more and more difficult for us to keep pace with Chelsea, City and Utd. So for me something has to give, what will be interesting is that come this summer...lets see how much of that £100mill or whatever our supposed war chest is, i want to see how much Wenger spends and what kind of wages we will be paying if he does go out and buy a couple of £30-£40mill players.

But as im always pessimistic with Arsenal, i wouldnt be surprised if Wenger continues his usual, buy mediocre players from weak leagues...pay them £60k a week only for them to fail miserably when they are on the pitch:p.
 
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