Ashes of the Singularity Bench

Kaapstad · 5 Sep 2015 at 14:38

bloodkil said:
I would take all these bench results with a pinch of salt at least until the game enters a BETA stage.

One area I expect to improve a lot is DX11 performance on the AMD cards. At the moment it is way too low and I think the blame needs to go to the game devs rather than anything at AMDs end. 9 billion transistors on a Fury X are capable of a lot more than this bench allows at the moment.

muziqaz · 5 Sep 2015 at 14:47

Kaapstad said:
One area I expect to improve a lot is DX11 performance on the AMD cards. At the moment it is way too low and I think the blame needs to go to the game devs rather than anything at AMDs end. 9 billion transistors on a Fury X are capable of a lot more than this bench allows at the moment.

on dx11 level AMD needs to work on drivers, not dev

But since game is available on dx12, and driver optimisation for pre-beta benchmark takes time and money, why bother for now? I bet there is a single guy working slowly on dx11 optimisations with no rush, since they know that dx12 is giving them good performance as it is, and game is far from release date. It is all about prioritizing and saving money down at AMD.
As Oxide dev said, they themselves are learning about dx12 as they go, and CPU utilization is improving, even though as it is right now, CPU multithread usage is awesome in this game.

I'll do a run with HT disabled in a minute to see if that helps any

Kaapstad · 5 Sep 2015 at 14:52

muziqaz said:
on dx11 level AMD needs to work on drivers, not dev But since game is available on dx12, and driver optimisation for pre-beta benchmark takes time and money, why bother for now? I bet there is a single guy working slowly on dx11 optimisations with no rush, since they know that dx12 is giving them good performance as it is, and game is far from release date. It is all about prioritizing and saving money down at AMD.
As Oxide dev said, they themselves are learning about dx12 as they go, and CPU utilization is improving, even though as it is right now, CPU multithread usage is awesome in this game.

I'll do a run with HT disabled in a minute to see if that helps any

A lot of people point to the drivers for this but I can not believe the drivers would be this bad for any game using DX11, I give AMD more credit than that.

I think it is the game devs who have ignored DX11 performance on the AMD cards.

muziqaz · 5 Sep 2015 at 14:56

Kaap, when AMD does not optimise their drivers for new game with new engine you end up with performance like that. Especially at the game which eats CPUs. And AMD always has been know for higher CPU overhead than nvidia.

Gregster · 5 Sep 2015 at 15:17

Never knew a bench thread could be so hard lol. I had the same with the StarSwarm bench and several people telling me what I should a d shouldn't do. Let Kaap run the thread and respect what rules he has set out. By all means suggest things but respect his time and effort in updating.

muziqaz · 5 Sep 2015 at 15:18

https://flic.kr/p/yfSVnT 1080p HT disabled, stock fury x
https://flic.kr/p/xiiwEg 4k HT disabled, stock fury x

ALXAndy · 5 Sep 2015 at 15:18

Kaapstad said:
Do you have the CPU and GPU clockspeeds please.

GPU is stock. I did overclock it once but it doesn't stay and you need to bugger around every time you start Windows..

CPU is clocked to 4.4ghz

muziqaz · 5 Sep 2015 at 15:18

Gregster said:
Never knew a bench thread could be so hard lol. I had the same with the StarSwarm bench and several people telling me what I should a d shouldn't do. Let Kaap run the thread and respect what rules he has set out. By all means suggest things but respect his time and effort in updating.

no one is disrespecting anyone, chill

tommybhoy · 5 Sep 2015 at 15:40

Kaapstad said:
That would be me then using DX11 on my crappy old TitanX @1080p.

Butter wouldn't melt...

tommybhoy · 5 Sep 2015 at 15:46

Gregster said:
I had the same with the StarSwarm bench and several people telling me what I should a d shouldn't do.

Oh the controversy I remember it well.

It was one rule for the good guys and another for the others amongst the shenanigans. :eek:

Gregster · 5 Sep 2015 at 15:56

tommybhoy said:
Oh the controversy I remember it well.

It was one rule for the good guys and another for the others amongst the shenanigans.

Controversy was right and I even simplified the rules to make it easier. The rules were the same for everyone BTW and the thread is still there if you would like to check

Keep digging though, I find it comedy in my boredom at work

Kaapstad · 5 Sep 2015 at 16:05

Gregster said:
Controversy was right and I even simplified the rules to make it easier. The rules were the same for everyone BTW and the thread is still there if you would like to check Keep digging though, I find it comedy in my boredom at work

Have you seen many Fury Xs passing through the docks. :eek:

Gregster · 5 Sep 2015 at 16:10

Kaapstad said:
Have you seen many Fury Xs passing through the docks.

Sadly not and I handle many containers from China

Lokken86 · 5 Sep 2015 at 16:15

Gregster said:
Controversy was right and I even simplified the rules to make it easier. The rules were the same for everyone BTW and the thread is still there if you would like to check Keep digging though, I find it comedy in my boredom at work

Yep I'm working 12 hour days for 31 days straight here in a shack out in the middle of nowhere. Any contact with the outside world is a positive.

Gregster · 5 Sep 2015 at 20:18

Lokken86 said:
Yep I'm working 12 hour days for 31 days straight here in a shack out in the middle of nowhere. Any contact with the outside world is a positive.

Ouch. I am bumping through OT at the mo while it is available but I don't think I could do what you are doing. Too much for an old man like me

bloodkil · 5 Sep 2015 at 21:05

I trust Kaap to do a good job with a bench thread, I feel it is a good choice make one at this point to get some variance. Maybe note peoples versions?

Gregster · 5 Sep 2015 at 21:28

bloodkil said:
I trust Kaap to do a good job with a bench thread, I feel it is a good choice make one at this point to get some variance. Maybe note peoples versions?

There is no reason that people are not running the same version other than the obvious "Jack Sparrow" version. I didn't really want to spend $45 on this but that DX12 and curiosity thing got the better of me

rickyjb · 6 Sep 2015 at 01:11

single gtx 980ti @ 1452mhz
5930k @ 4.4ghz
2160p dx11

and dx12

not sure why temporal aa duration is 6 not 12 , anyone know how to change this ?

Kaapstad · 6 Sep 2015 at 01:20

rickyjb said:
single gtx 980ti @ 1452mhz
5930k @ 4.4ghz
2160p dx11

and dx12

You need to check your temporal AA as it is too low for the settings in the OP.

tommybhoy · 6 Sep 2015 at 01:48

Gregster said:
Controversy was right and I even simplified the rules to make it easier. The rules were the same for everyone BTW and the thread is still there if you would like to check Keep digging though, I find it comedy in my boredom at work

I'd be keeping that to myself, that threads an embarrassment.

Kaapstad said:
Have you seen many Fury Xs passing through the docks.

Gregster said:
Sadly not and I handle many containers from China

Not even the ones that AMD got back?