Asking manager for a reference

[dowie]

re: writing nonsense like 'references available on request' at the bottom of a CV - its utterly pointless and is just as much a waste of space as the various retards who feel the need to write 'Curriculum Vitae' at the top of a CV... (often in a 16pt font size)

I wouldn't wait until interviewed, discuss with your manager.

Tell him you're happy in the company but need to progress your career, knowing there is no openings to do so within the company you must therefore move on, could you have a reference?

He's highly unlikely to take it personally, this is a business matter, not a personal matter. You need to do whats right for you and yours at the end of the day, and if that means changing company then that's what you've got to do. You can't be loyal to any firm these days.

silly idea in most places and its got nothing to do with the manager taking it personally but simply being pragmatic and deciding that you now no longer need to have much of a slice (if any) of the finite bonus and salary pool he has to divide amongst his team... Also if you do announce that you're leaving you'd better do it fairly quickly else it sends out a signal that no one else wants you either thus further lowering your value.

 

[londonbairn]

I tend to use senior guys who I have worked closely with and struck up a good relationship with rather than line managers. Makes it easier