Asking someone where they are from

ICDP said:
Anyone refusing to accept that England has shifted further right just needs to be shown this thread.

It is why I genuinely believe the Tories will still win the next election and why Labour are pandering to the anti immigration pro brexit frootloops. I mean we have reached peak racism when people openly declare that Black cannot be really British, because of their questionable heritage.
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Isn't this a bit like the No True Scotsman fallacy?
 
danlightbulb said:
eh?

Im saying that a racist person doesn't hate a country or peoples specifically for its own sake, they are racist because of the impact (actual or perceived) on the people of that country coming here and believed to effect, dilute or otherwise alter their home country.

A racist person doesn't 'hate' Pakistan or Pakistani people. They 'hate' those people coming here and influencing life here.
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I would partly disagree with that. A racist primarily hates another black or white person purely because they look different. They see this difference as a threat, as intimidating, and want to eradicate them as a result.

Of course there are also concerns that there will be cultural impacts, but a racist's primary concern is that someone of another race looks different to them and this is perceived as a potential problem. They don't want this in their gene pool or community - neither do they understand it.
 
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danlightbulb said:
I can't say I have ever known anyone racist to the second definition, which is hatred of a group on the belief they are genetically inferior.

Maybe the first one is more likely to be prevalent in working class communities, and the second one more likely to be prevalent in upper class or institutional communities?
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A lot of upper class people in Texas.
 
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Dis86 said:
Do you not think it's a bit strange to have an unusual attachment to what is ultimately an uncontrolled bodily growth? Why is hair a sensitive subject to black women? Because of something that they've never been affected by? Because of something that hasn't happened in centuries? Because of something that probably didn't even affect their ancestors?

This woman seemingly didn't think enough of her heritage to answer a very simple question on it yet she's attuned in to a cultural issue that results specifically from that heritage?

To be fair I also think the hair plug thread on here is mental.

This also wasn't some random public encounter, it's an engineered social meet and greet, a big part of which is knowing who you're chatting to. Having a name badge visible is a useful part of that. Again very different to your social situation where he had no need or reason to touch your hair.
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Sorry but this reply is mental. This is how it should be:

"Really? That's an interesting perspective and something I didn't have much personal experience of. I didn't know hair was that significant to black women. Care to say a little more about it or point me in an informative direction?"

Your response is just super defensive and he's right, hair has great cultural significance in the black community. And also yes, moving a stranger's hair out the way so you can read their badge is just damn rude more than anything. It's also slightly weird.
 
Chuk_Chuk said:
For starters the whole transcript reads like two socially inept people trying to converse. But let's drill down into it.

If you are a none white person in this country and have interacted with enough white people (to be fair people of other races will ask the question sometimes), you will eventually have the "where are you from" conversation. Most likely more than once in your lifetime. So when you hear the question in future, you will know what someone is actually trying to ask you.

The fact that she was asked this question multiple times and still didn't understand what LSH, was actually trying to ask, tells me either this is the first time she has had this conversation (highly unlikey given her age), or she was acting like she didn't know what was going on. A.K.A acting stupid

Initially she answer the question with the company she works for which is nonsense. I don't see how the correct answer to the question "where are you from", to be the company you work for. I don't think I have ever heard that question used in reference to the company you worked for. Then to answer with where the location of the company is, When asked "No, where are you from?". Nah I'm not buying the BS that this is a normal assumption. For starter the "you" was probably emphasied when asked a second time but more importantly that would have been a hint as to what LSH was actually trying to ask. Just another minor thing in a list of dumb minor nonsense, that adds to this awkward conversation.

Then when asked about where in Africa she is from (which should have been a big hint on what LSH was actually trying to ask, as ham fisted as her attempt was), rather than using that opportunity to clear it up and explain her heritage and ending this whole awkward conversation, she decides to be obstinate in her answer and continues the game where she act like she doesn't know what LSH has being trying to ask.

Then when asked for the fourth time, she responds with the UK. I would have expected this to be her first answer not that BS about the company. She gave a one word answer to the question. So she is still pretending to not know what LSH is asking her.

FH was acting dumb. She new exactly what LSH was asking but decided to drag this out probably because she knew there was a recording device nearby and she was going to milk this interaction, for all it is worth.
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This is similar to what I think. She knew what Hussey meant but took a quick dislike to her, decided to make life difficult for her and then started this ****storm to get back at her and promote her charity. I wouldn't have said so initially but such a meal has been made out of this that I find it hard to think otherwise.

Graetzbridge said:
A little tail.
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Shake it, baby.
 
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Thekwango said:
what a time to be alive eh. i can't really get my head around the idea of a black woman being racist towards another black woman but it's certainly added to the entertainment value :cry: :cry:
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Black people can be xenophobic towards other blacks, not necessarily racist though. There has been long-standing rivalry between e.g. Nigerians and Jamaicans.

EDIT: Actually I have heard blacks shout racist abuse at each other, so it does happen.
 
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