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Why do a lot of web developer positions require ASP/.NET opposed to PHP? I'm thinking I may have to start learning ASP which is a shame, as I like PHP.
ASP :(
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Before I started working where I do I'd never touched ASP .NET, however having been forced to use it for the past year or so I can safely say I find it much much better than PHP.
It's faster, has the awesome .NET framework - which also allows you to use external DLLs from your other programs inside your website, makes it very easy to write web services, has the great and simple to use MVC system if you want it, or failing that master pages for easy templating and of course it can be wrote in Visual Studio which is one of the best programming environments available.
It takes a little longer to get used to how to use Visual Studio and the like but it's definitely worth it.
It's faster, has the awesome .NET framework - which also allows you to use external DLLs from your other programs inside your website, makes it very easy to write web services, has the great and simple to use MVC system if you want it, or failing that master pages for easy templating and of course it can be wrote in Visual Studio which is one of the best programming environments available.
It takes a little longer to get used to how to use Visual Studio and the like but it's definitely worth it.
The old stigma used to be that ASP tended to be for larger companies and PHP for smaller business, enthusiasts and freelancers.
This mostly used to be due to the pricing of servers, with windows servers being more expensive.
I started the transition from PHP to ASP about 6 months ago, after I found that anything based in the larger companies wanted this scripting.
I've very much enjoyed learning it so far but am far from an expert, and I agree with Pho on many of his points.
Its another string to your bow if you can find the time to learn it, it does seem to be becoming more and more popular (from my limited experience at least)
This mostly used to be due to the pricing of servers, with windows servers being more expensive.
I started the transition from PHP to ASP about 6 months ago, after I found that anything based in the larger companies wanted this scripting.
I've very much enjoyed learning it so far but am far from an expert, and I agree with Pho on many of his points.
Its another string to your bow if you can find the time to learn it, it does seem to be becoming more and more popular (from my limited experience at least)
Which resources did you find best for learning it?
Soldato
There's a major difference between ASP and ASP.NET - don't mix them up because the names are similar.
ASP
ASP.NET
ASP
ASP.NET
*Can I use this website name? this as its in no way competition for OcUK? If not I'll remove all links and mention of them*
I'm a sucker for hard copy reference, so when I decided to take the plunge in to ASP.NET I headed off to Sitepoint, I've used their books before and are very impressed with them
I got the Build Your Own ASP.NET 3.5 Web Site Using C# & VB, 3rd Edition and basically started at page one and followed it through till the end.
This gave me a pretty good understanding of most aspects of the code.
I recently ordered a copy of the The ASP.NET 2.0 Anthology: 101 Essential Tips, Tricks & Hacks as further reference.
In between these 2 books its mostly Google, sitepoint and other forums, and bugging the chap that I often work with (who used to be our ASP guy when I was the PHP guy)
I'm a sucker for hard copy reference, so when I decided to take the plunge in to ASP.NET I headed off to Sitepoint, I've used their books before and are very impressed with them
I got the Build Your Own ASP.NET 3.5 Web Site Using C# & VB, 3rd Edition and basically started at page one and followed it through till the end.
This gave me a pretty good understanding of most aspects of the code.
I recently ordered a copy of the The ASP.NET 2.0 Anthology: 101 Essential Tips, Tricks & Hacks as further reference.
In between these 2 books its mostly Google, sitepoint and other forums, and bugging the chap that I often work with (who used to be our ASP guy when I was the PHP guy)
There's a major difference between ASP and ASP.NET - don't mix them up because the names are similar.
ASP
ASP.NET
Yeah apologies, I didn't even think that anyone still used basic ASP in the industry ? Its all .NET, I was just being lazy
I don't have time to learn both ASP.NET and continue with PHP, so I'm torn between which one to tackle first?
Whats your area of work (or your aim for)
I guess if you want a 9-5 position in a established web company then ASP.NET is the way to go as they do tend to favor experience in this language over PHP.
If your going to freelance then it may be better to continue with PHP.
I guess if you want a 9-5 position in a established web company then ASP.NET is the way to go as they do tend to favor experience in this language over PHP.
If your going to freelance then it may be better to continue with PHP.
To start with I'm planning to do freelance work to build a portfolio, then move into a 9-5 job >.<
Are you saying making registration/login scripts isn't as easy using ASP.NET?
I'm considering Ruby as a possibility too, I've read great things.
OK I've decided on a route. I currently know HTML, CSS and some PHP. So the next logical step is JavaScript > AJAX > Then more server side scripting.
Of course 
JQuery fits into the javaScript/AJAX.
JQuery fits into the javaScript/AJAX.
Soldato
learn PHP at the same time
I able to create login/registration, forms etc in PHP. What would you say the next step is? Create something bigger using a framework?
Soldato
Frameworks, writing your own classes, using classes, OOP, security etc etc.
Personally used to use 'classic' ASP in my old role. Since moving I've been forced to learn PHP - I like how there's an inbuilt function for everything you can think of
Used to hate the pain in ass of doing simple things like file uploads and sending with ASP.