Assault rifles and military-style semi-automatics have been banned in New Zealand

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“In short every semi-automatic weapon used in the terrorist attack on Friday will be banned in this country,” said Ardern.

“I absolutely believe there will be a common view amongst New Zealanders, those who use guns for legitimate purposes, and those who have never touched one, that the time for the mass and easy availability of these weapons must end. And today they will,” said Ardern.

The ban on the sale of the weapons came into effect at 3pm on Thursday – the time of the press conference announcing the ban – with the prime minister warning that “all sales should now cease” of the weapons.

The Government has fallen short of banning all semi-automatic weapons, acknowledging that a number of low calibre semi-automatic weapons were vital in New Zealand's pest control efforts.
“We have also acknowledged that some guns serve legitimate purposes in our farming communities, and have therefore set out exemptions for 0.22 calibre rifles and shotguns commonly used for duck hunting. These will have limitations around their capacity," said Police Minister Stuart Nash.

By way of background, both .22 calibre and those types of shotguns are lower calibre staples in most farmers' gun cabinets, and are widely used in smaller pest and game control, like Rabbits and Ducks. (source: here)

I can see this getting a lot of support and although the challenges in drafting workable legislation in such a tight timeframe will be a complex issue, this feels like a positive step.
 
It's not a bad thing (who really needs assault rifles anyway), but I suspect criminals will always be able to get a hold of guns should they desire, regardless of the hurdles in place.
 
Guess people will have to use .22 rounds now rather than .223

And that's a good thing, because .22 is a civilian round, whereas .223 is military.

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The .22 (left) has a speed of ~1,600 feet per second. It creates small entry and exit wounds. The .223 (right) has a speed of 3,000 feet per second. It creates a larger wound as it enters, tumbles inside the body for maximum damage, and causes additional trauma on exit.

Which would you prefer to be hit by?
 
Seems a bit weird to me that someone from Australia was seemingly able to either move or purchase such a quantity of weapons and attachments so seemingly easily in NZ? were the gun laws that lax before?

I'm always pro responsible gun laws but not a fan of allowing the actions of a small number of "mad" people dictating extreme restrictions.
 
The .22 (left) has a speed of ~1,600 feet per second. It creates small entry and exit wounds. The .223 (right) has a speed of 3,000 feet per second. It creates a larger wound as it enters, tumbles inside the body for maximum damage, and causes additional trauma on exit.

Which would you prefer to be hit by?

Although .223 is more likely to be lethal - .22 can leave you wishing it was :s

.223 has significant effective range whereas I've even seen .22 bounce off a car windscreen at fairly short range (though it will also easily go through - don't take from that I'm saying a window can stop it).

EDIT: Personally I think the rounds themselves is the wrong thing to focus on though - effective rate of fire and accessibility in general are much more important - I'd rather deal with .223 where someone had to take the time to manually operate the weapon between discharges versus .22 in semi let alone fully automatic.
 
I wonder if .22 Magnum will also be included in the ".22 is OK to own" section? Or the smaller .17HMR etc?

Also, I wonder what "fair and reasonable compensation" will be for the buy back because I very much doubt it will be 100% of what the firearm is actually worth?
 
Although .223 is more likely to be lethal - .22 can leave you wishing it was :s

.223 has significant effective range whereas I've even seen .22 bounce off a car windscreen at fairly short range (though it will also easily go through - don't take from that I'm saying a window can stop it).


EDIT: Personally I think the rounds themselves is the wrong thing to focus on though - effective rate of fire and accessibility in general are much more important - I'd rather deal with .223 where someone had to take the time to manually operate the weapon between discharges versus .22 in semi let alone fully automatic.
I guess that just down to a glancing angle, between cars the angle of the windscreen varies a lot.
 
And that's a good thing, because .22 is a civilian round, whereas .223 is military.

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The .22 (left) has a speed of ~1,600 feet per second. It creates small entry and exit wounds. The .223 (right) has a speed of 3,000 feet per second. It creates a larger wound as it enters, tumbles inside the body for maximum damage, and causes additional trauma on exit.

Which would you prefer to be hit by?

Can I choose none of the above?
 
They might have pests like rats and the like, but there isn't even a dangerous animal that you would need a big gun for.

It's not like they have bears roaming around their islands.
 
And that's a good thing, because .22 is a civilian round, whereas .223 is military.

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The .22 (left) has a speed of ~1,600 feet per second. It creates small entry and exit wounds. The .223 (right) has a speed of 3,000 feet per second. It creates a larger wound as it enters, tumbles inside the body for maximum damage, and causes additional trauma on exit.

Which would you prefer to be hit by?

All fair good, but not all .22 rounds are the same though. That you posted looks like a .22LR rimfire which, whilst being a small round, is perfectly capable of killing a person with ease. However, this is also a .22 - a polymer tipped .22-250 Remington to be exact (muzzle velocity is ~4000fps) and would most definitely give you a bad day if you get hit by one.

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All fair good, but not all .22 rounds are the same though. That you posted looks like a .22LR rimfire which, whilst being a small round, is perfectly capable of killing a person with ease. However, this is also a .22 - a polymer tipped Remington .22-250 to be exact (muzzle velocity is ~4000fps) and would most definitely give you a bad day if you get hit by one.

I'm sure .22 can still kill people, given the right circumstances.

I doubt it can kill people on the same scale as an AR-15 assault rifle with bump stock
 
To be honest this is a knee jerk reaction following the actions of 1 individual. Nothing to stop someone raging with a .357 or .44 lever action which i expect will still be legal and can fire at maybe 1 aimed shot a second, 10 rounds held and takes maybe 30sec to reload max. Someone could still create a hell of a body count with a lever action if they know what they are doing... also fyi lever action rifles are legal here.
 
I doubt it can kill people on the same scale as an AR-15 assault rifle with bump stock

AR-15 in this kind of context is just another semi-automatic rifle no different to hunting rifles, etc. aside from being aesthetically militarised and more military in styling. Even in America in most cases they are only semi-automatic rather than fully automatic.

Someone could still create a hell of a body count with a lever action if they know what they are doing... also fyi lever action rifles are legal here.

I'd much rather face someone with a lever action rifle - despite some YouTube videos, etc. most people are unable to put out any consistent rate of fire while maintaining any degree of accuracy with one and many of those who carry out these shootings are relatively inexperienced shooters.

Generally a lot of the fatalities occur in the opening moments where the higher the rate of fire the less chance anyone has to react.
 
Pistol and shotgun crimes will never really be dealt with, you’d simply hope the low mag/round count, slightly longer reload time, lower accuracy among other variables against them in comparison to medium-long barrel rifles make it harder for the criminal and easier for a well trained police unit.

Ar style mags can be ridiculously large, especially if there’s a drum available.
 
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