Assembling a 5.1 setup piece by specific piece, help please

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Hi all, i'm sure there are many knowledgeable people in here that are able to help but i'm looking to build a 5.1 setup with a few specific needs, first of all the two speakers either side of the tv need to be free standing for ease of use, with the rear speakers being wall mounted, also I require a receiver that allows me to turn off/lower the volume/mute specific speakers if thats at all possible, basically turning a 5.1 into a 2.0 setup, this is for late at night where I want the rear two to simply act as normal 2.0 speakers with all audio coming out of them when I cant have the surround sound on too loud, I hope this is possible as if it isnt, it should be as I think it'd be a very useful feature. Finally I need a receiver with at least 3/4hdmi inputs, I was shocked to find that a lot of receivers still only have like 2 hdmi inputs, if anyone has any recommendations on an amazing receiver/subwoofer and speakers I would greatly appreciate it, i'm looking to spend within the 150/250£ range which should be enough to ensure a nice setup :) thank you for the help
 
Cant really help on the specifics, but ive been steadily upgrading amps over the years and ive gone from cheap crap to low end to mid end gear, you don't necessarily have to have it on loud for 'surround' sound, as ive upgraded ive found clarity has improved even at low volumes, which still makes a film enjoyable at low volumes.

I currently have a Denon 1911 amp set up with some old Kef Eggs and it still a nice sounding system for the outlay.And I can watch a film at night with my sleeping baby in the same room, with the volume low enough to hear and it still doesn't wake the bab up!
 
Ahh well that is good to hear :) the problem is I will be closer to the rear speakers than the front speakers late at night and i'm worried about not hearing dialogue etc out of the front speakers when a quick settings change means I hear it all behind me crystal clear, but if the audio is clear and directed enough then hopefully i'd still be able to hear it :)
 
Most modern Amps have setup mics so you can adjust individual speaker volumes depending on your seating position. Even my old Onkyo 605 and Yamaha 757 did too
 
Most modern Amps have setup mics so you can adjust individual speaker volumes depending on your seating position. Even my old Onkyo 605 and Yamaha 757 did too

this, and also you can set distance of speaker to listening position so all the sound from 1 instant reaches you at the same time

most new amps have an automatic feature for doing this YPAO on my yamaha
 
Ahhh that is excellent to hear then, do they have presets so more than one preset for position settings? or it just tends to be an initial setup thing? the problem is I have no idea where to start on what are good speakers and what arent, I can at least look at a full home cinema set and read reviews etc, once you get into the nitty gritty buying it bit by bit it becomes more complicated. I would gladly buy a 5.1 bundle that comes with two free standing speakers but the problem is I havent really found any, they're either all free standing or none are
 
I'm afraid you won't find what you want for a number of reasons. So you need to either modify your expectations or change your budget significantly. Here's a breakdown of why; and I've changed the order of the point you raise to tackle some of the biggest issues first...

I need a receiver with at least 3/4hdmi inputs, I was shocked to find that a lot of receivers still only have like 2 hdmi inputs
That's because I think you're looking at all-in-one kits along these sort of lines. It's a kit that comes with built-in BD player and speakers. That's where you're going wrong

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If you look at proper AV Receivers, where the main unit is just an amplifier with radio tuner (the definition of a "Receiver") then even the most inexpensive branded products come with 4 HDMI inputs typically. You then buy the Blu-ray player and the speaker kit to go with it. This type of system is know as an AV Separates system.

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the two speakers either side of the tv need to be free standing for ease of use
This is something common with all-in-one kits but not so much in your £150-£250 budget range.


also I require a receiver that allows me to turn off/lower the volume/mute specific speakers if thats at all possible, basically turning a 5.1 into a 2.0 setup, this is for late at night where I want the rear two to simply act as normal 2.0 speakers with all audio coming out of them when I cant have the surround sound on too loud, I hope this is possible as if it isnt, it should be as I think it'd be a very useful feature.
I understand what you want but I'm afraid this doesn't exist in any AV amp I've ever come across up to £3,000 let alone under £250. The only way to achieve this would be with quite a complex speaker switching box that would reroute the signals to the various speakers. The cost of such a box alone could easily be more than you want to spend on an entire system.

To cope with late night use there is Night Mode which operates on Dolby Digital, DTS and HD Audio sources. This decreases the dynamic range as part of the digital decoding process. That's okay for your movies off disc. For TV viewing where the source is stereo or ProLogic (a basic form of enhanced-for-surround stereo) then you can force the amp in to stereo mode rather than the default 5.1 surround, or you can use 'all channel stereo' mode which will do what it says on the tin. That way you can reduce the overall volume and still have a stereo signal on the rear speakers which would be close by you. Alternatively, invest in some headphones.


To get what you want in terms of HDMI inputs and tower speakers at the front then your minimum spend on an AV separates system would be:
£100 on a Pioneer VSX322 or Sony STRDH520 AV Receiver
£50 on a basic LG or Toshiba Blu-ray player
£300 on the Tannoy HTS201 speaker system
and roughly £50-£80 for interconnects and speaker cable.

Total spend approx £550-£580.​

I think you'll have to search long an hard to find an all-in-one BD home cinema kit with more than 3 HDMI inputs. I had a look at the top-of-the-range Samsung (HT-F9750W £1499.00 @ John Lewis) That has 2 physical HDMI inputs + the ARC feature which they count as a third, but it does depend on your TV being ARC compatible.
 
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I'd be inclined to look for secondhand kit. That's where the value is. Some Kef Eggs and amp would be just the job.
 
I dont mind spending more if thats whats required, the reason I set that budget is cuz yes I thought those all in one kits could provide what I needed, but if they dont then i'll go higher. That is hugely informative though, thank you very much :)
 
Best thing to do although we have some experts on here (as seen by the very well explained post above) if you can spend more head over to avforums.com.

They have specific sub forums for receivers, speakers even cables. Explain your situation and budget like here and you may get a few specifics/options you hadn't had mentioned yet.

Once you've decided on the kit give your local Richer Sounds a call and ask if you can demo it. As you don't mind spending 500-600 they should accommodate you :)

Then enjoy it ;)
 
Best thing to do although we have some experts on here (as seen by the very well explained post above) if you can spend more head over to avforums.com.

They have specific sub forums for receivers, speakers even cables. Explain your situation and budget like here and you may get a few specifics/options you hadn't had mentioned yet.

Once you've decided on the kit give your local Richer Sounds a call and ask if you can demo it. As you don't mind spending 500-600 they should accommodate you :)

Then enjoy it ;)

He might get coerced in to spending 10% of his budget on speaker cables, or whatever the ratio is they're using now, so that he gets a greater sound stage, and better colours over his HDMI cable.
 
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