Asus 4K To Swift, Talk Me Out Of It !!!

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I'm really considering switching from my Asus PB287Q 4K to the Swift, I got some cash from relatives as they never know what to gift me and I could sell the 4K panel to make up the rest.

So, I like the G-Sync aspect and the stupid high refresh rate but a little held back by the huge downsize in resolution.

I need the community's help, Give me the pros and the cons please :)
 
Well, the benefit of downgrading your resolution would be your immediate improvement on performance/frame rate and smoother gameplay. However it is at the cost of image details...but I think you already know that.

If there's any result for NOT getting the Swift right now is that Acer is suppose to bring out a product of similar spec soon. We all know how Asus LOVE overpricing their stuffs when they have no direct competition (they charged the moon for their 4K monitor back then when they were the only one with 4K panel out). It's worth waiting to see Acer's offering, as even if you were not buying the Acer, its launch should have some impact on the pricing of the Swift.
 
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I did the same thing only swapped out the Sammy 4k. Found the Swift matches the 4k ones for TN picture quality if not slightly better but certainly not worse. Lower input lag and faster refresh update even when at lower fps. Way superior response times at 60hz as the 4k TN's are not the fastest that's for sure. Thinner and nicer design bezel. Can overclock games to 144hz mode with a press of a button even if they are locked at 30fps or 60fps so you are not stuck with 60hz update, makes judder less on badly made games that g-sync won't help with. ULMB mode for easy to run games with locks at 85, 100, 120 hz, it also has no double imaging as long as you can match the desired hz with the same fps with v-sync at all times, works great and can achieve 120cdm2 still. 4k needs sli or x3 sli to max brand new games without AA sometimes for 60fps which is fine but i found running maxed games at 1440p with triple digit fps much smoother and nicer. 4k is not great when sli is not supported like dead rising 3. On that game 1 titan black OC'd sometimes ran sub 30fps, er no thanks.
I could only see the extra detail sometimes when sat forward, from 2 ft back 4k without AA compared to 1440p with injector SMAA on ultra looked fairly similar in the main so as i don't play games really close i found the 4k not worth it at this size of screen. For AA at 1440p i use RadeonPro, the free download. The SMAA injector works with nvidia, just add a game, select ultra and then select custom which copies ultra to custom (you need to do this for nvidia to keep the ultra settings). This AA works with 64bit exe games as well and is perfect, no blurring of the image and not heavy on gpu power.

This is my experience with my rig comprising x3 titan black. 4k is very nice and all but i found 1440p to still look very sharp when not sticking my nose to the screen and from normal viewing found the jump to 4k less impactful than the jump from 1080p to 1440p which is very obvious even at my seating distance. All this depends on your eyesight and viewing distance of course, types of games played etc. I had the swift and 4k side by side feeding the same games via 2 pc's and made my choice (as said before 4k no AA and 1440p, ultra SMAA injection). Only time 4k showed it's superiority was at closer range, so for me the swift won out with similar image and higher hz via my sli'd setup. Of course g-sync is a must for me now, just let my gpu's run wild on any game and get whatever wildly varying fps on different scenes with no issue of judder or tearing and super low input lag. Playing alien isolation in triple digits with almost no motion blur beats the hell out of 60fps blur and average response times. 60hz control feels so horrible now as well. G-sync has less input lag than triple buffered v-sync when not hitting your max fps. I frame cap my games at 135-140fps to avoid this via the program you get with MSI afterburner for my overclocking.

Hope this gives you a few idea's to think over. I have no regrets over the change unless i sat any closer where i know 4k would look better, but the swift has many other things to sway me even then. I found SMAA injection a must though to mantain clarity and remove most jaggies at 1440p, luckily it seems to work with every game.
 
A few of us went the same way. Especially if your system sports any less than 6gb VRAM. It's too early to elaborate but essentially 'what he said' above :)
 
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As above, had the samsung 4k and bought a swift expecting to send it back... end result I now only have the swift
Checkout the gsync owners thread in the Gpu section, quite a few on here made the same jump
 
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Talk Me Out Of It !!!
That wonderful feeling you get when you load a game up and see the small G-sync enabled light on the monitor light up red and your yellow Fraps counter in the top corner is showing 100+fps...


Sorry....:p
 
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Pro's
Good for gaming if you have enough GPU power.

Con's
Bound to Nvidia, very expensive, low refresh rates if you don't have enough GPU performance. TN for this money is laughable.
 
Pro's
Good for gaming if you have enough GPU power.

Con's
Bound to Nvidia, very expensive, low refresh rates if you don't have enough GPU performance. TN for this money is laughable.

Well put jigger!

Unless You have at least 2 x 780's or 290's as a minimum for 4k then you won't enjoy 4k. Even then you'll have to drop some settings for 60fps on the latest game . Though to push the only available 1440@144hz you'll need the same GPU horsepower. Either way you'll want dual GPU for the full effect of either though gsync helps at <60fps

You will notice the drop in resolution but the lack of screentear from high hz and gsync smoothness will make up for it.
 
TN for this money is laughable.

Minus gsync and ROG branding mark up - its not really that bad if you want 120+Hz, 2560x1440 and reasonable colours while retaining clarity and responsiveness for gaming. Which was why I waited until I could get my hands on one at a price that I felt reflected what they'd have been without the ROG mark up.

I had a little play through left 4 dead the other day comparing my 4K, couple of different IPS panels (21:9 @ 75Hz, 16:9 @ 60), a PLS panel and the Swift with and without gsync and its actually quite remarkable the difference in clarity in motion and the effect that has on the gameplay experience between the different options.
 
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i have one 780ti waiting for the acer 144hz/1440 will that have enough power for it, need need a card with more Vram or just more power from SLI

Depends on the game of course. Look at some benchmarks for your card/game/resolution for the ballpark fps. The 780ti will manage >60fps in most AAA games@1440p and here a high hz monitor will win as a60hz monitor with >60fps will suffer screen tear. So higher hz =no tear.

4k at 60_fps is nice. So is 1440p with gsync especially in the low fps where gsync smoothed it out and you have nvidia card. 2nd 780ti or swift with gsync. Check guru3d under 2\3\4 way sli reviews. I'd go for 2nd Ti as you have 4k. Though you must have had idea that 4k was at least 2 gpu's.
 
I don't see the benefit unless it's a small outlay for the swift once you have sold the 4K screen?

For me, my Samsung 4K was the best monitor i had for gaming, granted i only had the swift for maybe a week, it could have been a different situation if i had kept it longer.
 
I dont have a 4k , gota 1920x1200 atm wanting a 1440/144hz but swift in my eyes is the best but overpriced so see what comes out

Ah right sorry after a few beers I got mixed up with the OP. If I was in your position I'd go for the 1440 option. With a 780ti and Gsync compatibility it would have to be the swift or something equivilent that may be released soon. The swifts price is purely a cornered market price.
 
4K here, wouldn't have anything else, the visual quality is second to none, will only be swapping it for freesync 4k, the whole point in a monitor is to have the best picture possible, and 60FPS is enough for any game.
 
4K here, wouldn't have anything else, the visual quality is second to none, will only be swapping it for freesync 4k, the whole point in a monitor is to have the best picture possible, and 60FPS is enough for any game.

This, except I don't even care if its 60fps, if its smooth that's good enough for me. Ok I tend to play rpgs so fps is not vital and I do understand those that need speed but honestly if I see another post that says 'forget about gaming at 4K unless you have 1000k of gpus' or similar I may explode. :D
 
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