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At what point do you say GPU's are too expensive and refuse to buy?

I paid £550 for my 980Ti and considered buying the 3080FE on release, that would have been my max. But difficulties securing one and seeing increasingly higher prices made me move away from PC gaming after that.
 
This whole conversation reminfs me a lot of mobile phones. In 2007 original iPhone was launcged for £499. With the exception of Apple Pay i cannot think of anthing that phone couldnt do that the new ones can do. The iPhone was considered expensive and high end then but now lokk at teh prices, most high end phones are are the £1k mark with some up around the £2k and fundamentally they do exactly the same as the iPhone is 2007, just better, much like the graphics cards, motherboards and CPUs that are released today and are talking about
 
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This whole conversation reminfs me a lot of mobile phones. In 2007 original iPhone was launcged for £499. With the exception of Apple Pay i cannot think of anthing that phone couldnt do that the new ones can do. The iPhone was considered expensive and high end then but now lokk at teh prices, most high end phones are are the £1k mark with some up around the £2k and fundamentally they do exactly the same as the iPhone is 2007, just better, much like the graphics cards, motherboards and CPUs that are released today and are talking about
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Yeah but phone prices are fake to ensure brand loyalty, once you factor trade in and offers on release you don't pay those prices, My phone was £1200 MSRP when it released last year, with trade in and loyalty discounts it cost me £500
 
Around £500-£600 and even then I'm talking used.

There's no way in hell I'm considering current prices for new kit, it just amazes me how the £1k GPU seems to have become acceptable never mind £2k ones.
 
kazuya1337 said:
Yeah but phone prices are fake to ensure brand loyalty, once you factor trade in and offers on release you don't pay those prices, My phone was £1200 MSRP when it released last year, with trade in and loyalty discounts it cost me £500
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You can apply almost teh same logic to PC components. If you bought a 4090 last year for £1600 _i foreget teh exact FE price) you could sell it now for £1700 and juust pay £250 for a new 5090, if you really wanted to. Its teh same with most things when upgrading every generation which you seem to of in your example, in most cases you will cover at least half the cost of your upgrade (if upgrading from and to teh same tier of product)
 
cliffy said:
This whole conversation reminfs me a lot of mobile phones. In 2007 original iPhone was launcged for £499. With the exception of Apple Pay i cannot think of anthing that phone couldnt do that the new ones can do. The iPhone was considered expensive and high end then but now lokk at teh prices, most high end phones are are the £1k mark with some up around the £2k and fundamentally they do exactly the same as the iPhone is 2007, just better, much like the graphics cards, motherboards and CPUs that are released today and are talking about
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But we have many more options with phones I don't need to pay Samsung prices to get the same CPU hell I even get higher capacity and faster charging and pay less , Samsung kinda reminds me off Nvidia it's full of AI but less and less hardware improvements every year

I get we only have 2 options for GPU and one for very high end , but everything else you still have options and to find value, I don't get it's because of everything gone up yes but you don't think it's also being taken advantage off as long as they can get away with it pretty sure it's not entirely because everything just costs more
 
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But we have many more options with phones I don't need to pay Samsung prices to get the same CPU hell I even get higher capacity and faster charging and pay less , Samsung kinda reminds me off Nvidia it's full of AI but less and less hardware improvements every year

I get we only have 2 options for GPU and one for very high end , but everything else you still have options and to find value, I don't get it's because of everything gone up you don't think it's also being taken advantage off because it's what people are willing to still spend
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You do have choices though, something i contemplated myself is buying an xbox and playstation, keeping them for what is normally a 7-8 year cycle before the new ones come out and just build a basic pc fro browsing and content watching. Granted if you want PC gaming then you are stuck with only one main choice for high end with a base price in that tier that only goes up, its teh problem of having no competiution, hoipefullyAMD and Intel will do high end products that compete ay some point and prices may go down. I cant tell you what is to expensive because i dont know what teh profit margins are per unit. At the end of the day companies are there to make money and will sell the product for what ever people will pay, clearly enough people on teh planet are willing to pay the prices.

The AI part still requires hardware improvements just to run the AI and AI generated graphics is here to stay, it wont change.
 
When upgrading i like a massive jump in performance. I went from a 970GTX to a 7900XT. I don't like incremental upgrades. I'll do the same when i need to upgrade my 7900XT.

£650/700 is my limit (i bought the 7900XT for £650 14 month ago, brand new).

I would never pay 4 figures for a GPU. It's just silly money at that point.

Give these firms (Nvidia/AMD/Intel) an inch and they'll take a mile. Don't encourage them.
 
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For me, it’s just a case of getting the model I want. If that means waiting for it to be in stock or waiting for a non-scalped price, fine.

Nobody wants to pay ‘chump prices’.
 
I wouldn't refuse to buy but now just buy what I need and when I need it. The 4090/5090, while awesome in their own right are better suited to mixed gaming/productivity workloads, or at least someone who spends many hours a week gaming which helps justify it.
Unless gaming at 4K+, the **70 series probably as high as most NEED to go which I think is what Nvidia said last gen if I remember correctly. Maybe explains why there were three 4070 variants.
Using a 4070 at the moment for occasional gaming I see no need to upgrade at all for 1440P. If Nvidia return to the previous cadence it could even be less than two years now before the next release also.
£500 or so across 4 years I don't mind, so, skipping a generation to bring the cost down.
 
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I just watched some of the WAN show and they mentioned SLI. Thinking about it people back when SLI was a think were willing to buy a top end card (GTX980ti was £650ish) and then multiply that cost by 2x, 3x or 4x for a minimum performance uplift. I mean quad sli GTX 980ti would be £2600 and i am pretty sure you never got 4 tiomes teh performance
 
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I just watched some of the WAN show and they mentioned SLI. Thinking about it people back when SLI was a think were willing to buy a top end card (GTX980ti was £650ish) and then multiply that cost by 2x, 3x or 4x for a minimum performance uplift. I mean quad sli GTX 980ti would be £2600 and i am pretty sure you never got 4 tiomes teh performance
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Yeah, a tiny percentage of people, there's never been a problem with the extreme top end being silly prices, make as many titans as you like. The problem is the mid-range and budget end inflation and being such poor value.
 
I'm really price conscious these days so I'm not sure I could put a specific amount on this, but there is point and I think high-end, or mid-range GPUs have already gone past 'it' for me.

The most I ever spent was £569 on an Nvidia 980ti in 2015. Since then I built a new gaming PC based on a Ryzen 5600X, but now paired with a 6650XT which I bought in 2023 for £200. It fits my needs and plays mostly older and indie games fine. The most demanding game played has probably been Fallout 76. I also bought a Steam Deck in 2023 which was a game changer and has really opened up my gaming time. Most of my other gaming is done on PS5 Pro and this is where I'll play the most demanding games. Sometimes I prefer big-screen gaming and the simplicity and ease of use of console on big screens remains unmatched. That said I do see the appeal of condensing my purchases to a select few digital ecosystems, so only buy Steam games on PC and sold the Xbox Series X last year. At some point I might upgrade my PC, or GPU and I'll have to make a decision on value (the max probably around the 7700XT point). It will be AMD again, or Intel due to being interested in switching to Linux full-time (not quite there atm; so only run Linux on some PCs).
 
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Yeah, a tiny percentage of people, there's never been a problem with the extreme top end being silly prices, make as many titans as you like. The problem is the mid-range and budget end inflation and being such poor value.
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I was literally just refering to highend. I think you can still build a reasonable 1080p gaming setup for a half decent price, the new Intel cards are a good price for that segment. If gamng at 4K the wallet is going to take a bashing. No idea what will happen when 8K becomes a popular thing
 
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