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ATi and their stream encoding? just a load of nonce then?
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it is in basic view mate..Not there is basic view. Only way to get it is to download it, but that version doesn;t use the GPU
nope. there is a quide on ati's site on where to find it, but only shows up after installing that seperate avivo download (which doesnt use the gpu)
ATi have screwed the pooch somewhere. i've raised a fault ticket with them to see what they do
ATi have screwed the pooch somewhere. i've raised a fault ticket with them to see what they do
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yeah.. looks like something went wrong, perhaps it doesnt notice stream or w/e so falls back to cpu mode
it is in basic view mate..
Not with the 8.12 install it isn't. You have to download the non GPU excellerated AVIVO converter, then it's there, but no worky
well i didn't.. i just installed the 8.12 driver and it was there.Not with the 8.12 install it isn't. You have to download the non GPU excellerated AVIVO converter, then it's there, but no worky
also i've got it working but its only using 24% of the gpu
not separately.. i only installed it with some beta drivers that had avivo in it, like the 8.12 beta.
same version. but i still installed the final version over the top.So the beta works better than the release?
Well it's not part of the 8.12's I've downloaded twice
.well no idea why its working for me
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lol, what I find hilarious is ATi never promised to release a be all and end all of encoding applications. As with any other platforms, the idea is to sell licences to OTHER companies to use your hardware/software platform for others to use for their software.
IE sell powerdvd a licence to use the steam platform for faster better power/performance ratio and make ATi money.
Making a fully functioning, do anything, compatible with anything best quality encoder in the world FOR FREE, would mean any possible income from selling licences to other companies dissapears instantly. But then again ATi never promised anything of the sort, its a basic demo encoding application, the same way the Ruby demo wasn't the best of all games ever, it simply gives companies an idea of the speed available and gets them to give ATi money to make their software hugely faster.
Does anyone expect ATi to release their own games, despite the fact they promise fantastic gaming performance, no, anyone expect Nvidia too? no, anyone even expect Physx to offer anything but a demo , no, because they are there to make money not offer you free games and software and free industry level support for those that need it.
People read something as simple as "8.12 brings with it support for stream and support for Avivo to use the gpu" and far to many of you misread that as "8.12 brings steam with massive support on day of release for stream applications, we have a perfectly working Avivo platform that works flawlessly on stream and will beat all other encoding applications"
Nvidia's own encoding thing costs $20 and is utter crap tbh, because they have the same goal, something that gives a general idea of available speed to get other people to pay them to use it.
Avivo was, and isn't very good, its been around for what, 2/3 years, and its always been incredibly limited, its always been pretty decent/fast but its never once been promoted as a be all and end all of encoding apps. If someone can find a quote anywhere of ATi saying they've increased Avivo's options, usability or support, go ahead and get upset, if you read into what they said far more than you should have, get over it.
We got DX10 support with Vista's release, thats all this is, the day we got the support, now companies will go and make their applications and over time things come out to use it. It was never an interesting thing in this driver set, simple a feature they support that was going to never be any use till someone builds an app for it. Like Cuda for most people is beyond useless right now, and DX11 won't do anything till someone makes support for it.
IE sell powerdvd a licence to use the steam platform for faster better power/performance ratio and make ATi money.
Making a fully functioning, do anything, compatible with anything best quality encoder in the world FOR FREE, would mean any possible income from selling licences to other companies dissapears instantly. But then again ATi never promised anything of the sort, its a basic demo encoding application, the same way the Ruby demo wasn't the best of all games ever, it simply gives companies an idea of the speed available and gets them to give ATi money to make their software hugely faster.
Does anyone expect ATi to release their own games, despite the fact they promise fantastic gaming performance, no, anyone expect Nvidia too? no, anyone even expect Physx to offer anything but a demo , no, because they are there to make money not offer you free games and software and free industry level support for those that need it.
People read something as simple as "8.12 brings with it support for stream and support for Avivo to use the gpu" and far to many of you misread that as "8.12 brings steam with massive support on day of release for stream applications, we have a perfectly working Avivo platform that works flawlessly on stream and will beat all other encoding applications"
Nvidia's own encoding thing costs $20 and is utter crap tbh, because they have the same goal, something that gives a general idea of available speed to get other people to pay them to use it.
Avivo was, and isn't very good, its been around for what, 2/3 years, and its always been incredibly limited, its always been pretty decent/fast but its never once been promoted as a be all and end all of encoding apps. If someone can find a quote anywhere of ATi saying they've increased Avivo's options, usability or support, go ahead and get upset, if you read into what they said far more than you should have, get over it.
We got DX10 support with Vista's release, thats all this is, the day we got the support, now companies will go and make their applications and over time things come out to use it. It was never an interesting thing in this driver set, simple a feature they support that was going to never be any use till someone builds an app for it. Like Cuda for most people is beyond useless right now, and DX11 won't do anything till someone makes support for it.
I don't expect a "be all and end all" encoding application, as you say Avivo has been around for sometime. The fact it's just so woefully bad should be an embarrassment to ATI.
1. It just crashes rather than saying "this file is not supported"
2. It only seems to work with a handful of codecs, a list might be nice!
3. The outputted files when I have manged to get it to work are unusable
4. The outputted files when I have manged to get it to work are of terrible qaulity, if I had chosed that kinda of encoding any app would have finished it fast.
5. Confusion of what/where the app is, the one on the page where you download the drivers states:-
http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx?p=vista64/common-vista64
I guess they mean X1000 and above!
I agree that hopefully 3rd parties will jump onboard and give us STREAM support for encoding, if companies like ATI and Nvidia are going to bang on about how wonderful these things are then she app should be at least a little fit for purpose.
HEADRAT
1. It just crashes rather than saying "this file is not supported"
2. It only seems to work with a handful of codecs, a list might be nice!
3. The outputted files when I have manged to get it to work are unusable
4. The outputted files when I have manged to get it to work are of terrible qaulity, if I had chosed that kinda of encoding any app would have finished it fast.
5. Confusion of what/where the app is, the one on the page where you download the drivers states:-
http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_catalyst.aspx?p=vista64/common-vista64
I guess they mean X1000 and above!
I agree that hopefully 3rd parties will jump onboard and give us STREAM support for encoding, if companies like ATI and Nvidia are going to bang on about how wonderful these things are then she app should be at least a little fit for purpose.
HEADRAT
and we misread that how? 8.12 doesnt include avivo, the one for download doesnt use the GPU so ATi havent givent what they promised
simple
ok, installed the betas instead of the finals (file is larger).
using avivo now and GPU-Z shows 15-25% GPU usage. encode looks like carp though since you cant give it enough bitrate to make it any good (i mean a 7gig mpeg2 file compressed to a 300meg divx?), no option to go above that
using avivo now and GPU-Z shows 15-25% GPU usage. encode looks like carp though since you cant give it enough bitrate to make it any good (i mean a 7gig mpeg2 file compressed to a 300meg divx?), no option to go above that