Attacks On Guide Dogs

[Morbius]

If you ban staffies then another dog will become the "must have" dog for the idiots. It was pit bulls until the dangerous dogs act came in.

Compulsory microchipping will do nothing. Responsible owners will get their dogs microchipped, but then they weren't part of the problem. You'll drive these dogs underground, just as pit bulls are at the moment. The dangerous dogs act was a badly thought out piece of legislation that was a knee-jerk reaction to some sections of the media getting a bee in their bonnet. I notice that some of these papers are starting to head down the same path and we risk making the same mistakes again.

There should be stiffer penalties in place for irresponsible owners, as well as more education about how to be a responsible dog owner. Banning breeds is not the answer.

 

[bitslice]

If you ban staffies then another dog will become the "must have" dog for the idiots. It was pit bulls until the dangerous dogs act came in.

There are only a few dogs that are a problem though, technically Collies can be dangerous but I could pick one of those up with one arm.
I'd struggle to disengage a Staffie or an Alsatian.

This is no 'must have' reason for any one breed of dog, they are all much alike, I'm simply suggesting removing all the difficult dogs from public ownership but letting the existing owners keep theirs.

 

[KaHn]

Regardless of size or temperment all dogs could be deadly and as such its the owners who need to realise how to train them and control them, dogs are animals at the end of the day.

Bannings one type of dog will not stop the problem it will just shift the problem on to another breed. I've said for a few years that people who own dogs should be licensed but this will never happen due to cost, so this is just more media scare tactic stuff imo.

KaHn

 

[paradisiac]

we had 3 dogs, a sprocker, a collie x and a labrador x. the lab x would go for any dog if she was out, but was fine if she was in our house or where the dog lives. so we just stuck a muzzle on her and she was fine.
i agree, owners are the issue not the dog in most cases. all animals have the ability to flip, so no matter how hard you train it, it can still happen. so best way is to take prevenitive measures.

 

[leaskovski]

Dog licenses is the only way forward. And whilst we are at it.... a license to have kids should be brought in as well.

 

[paradisiac]

Dog licenses is the only way forward. And whilst we are at it.... a license to have kids should be brought in as well.

i cant agree more. licenses would seem to be an answer, but then are police then going to be expected to walk round parks doing random stop checks on dog walkers and parents?

 

[Nightglow]

Well I think it's safe to say that fatalities or serious injuries caused by small dogs is EXTREMELY low and rare! It's simple logic and common sense that the bigger and more powerful the dog the more serious the damage it can cause!
The link and multiple case's within proves this point:
http://www.ukandspain.com/dangerous-dogs/

I had already posted that link, reply No6 in this thread.

Have read of the link below.

http://www.hesonline.nhs.uk/Ease/servlet/ContentServer?siteID=1937&categoryID=864

EXTREMELY low and rare to use you words, but it happens, & then there is still the disfigurement & psychological damage to the child, if it isn't killed.

Reading the HES reports, The three most common causes of bites are:

Dog bites, which account for around four out of five cases (80%)
Cat bites, which account for around one-in-seven cases (15%)
Human bites, which account for around one-in-20 cases (5%)

 

[StriderX]

There is no real solution to this, without simply making dogs extinct.

 

[Morbius]

Dog licences will make no difference. Responsible owners will get a licence, irresponsible owners won't.

Banning pit bulls hasn't eliminated pit bulls in this country. It just means that responsible people aren't allowed to own them whereas the irresponsible do what they want regardless.

 

[The Halk]

I've had 4 staffies, none have bitten anyone. Along with a Rottweiler aswell. Dogs are only "fierce" if the owners are clowns.

And the vast majority of clown dog owners go for the 'hard' breeds.

Bring bag dog licenses, destroy any dog without a license. Fine any owner a flat fine of 5K to support it. Custodial sentence if you get let off with a fine.

 

[Energize]

why do so many people need dogs to make their manhood bigger? who needs a huskey as a pet (working dog, not pet!) or a staffie/bull terrier. they arent pets they are working dogs. or the idiots who have 2 german shepherds in a small terrace with no back garden?!?!

You can't be serious, huskies are popular pets, they are not bought because they are intimidating, they are bought because they are cute, german shepherds and rottweilers are more intimidating, they aren't even that large compared to other dog breeds.

Dog licenses is the only way forward. And whilst we are at it.... a license to have kids should be brought in as well.

Licences were tried before in this country and failed. They just aren't practical to enforce. Like the fiasco that is horse passports.

Just ban the breeding and import of such dogs, neuter the rest and wait until the current ones die off in ten years.

Banning a breed of dog is pointless, ban staffies and chavs will use rottweilers, ban them and they will use german shepherds, akitas, malamutes, etc.

 

[Tefal]

Genuine LOL.

As for the thread subject matter. Bizarre. Do other dogs spot a guide dog and think "Right you smart arse, your gettin' it....". Or is it the brain dead owners of other dogs that rile up their own dog to go and attack the guide dogs?.

"Go on son, go sic 'im.........look at the cocky git, thinks he's better than you with his wee smarmy yellow jacket on".

dog is out of control and unlike a normal dog owner the guide dog owner can't see them blatantly unable to control their dog from afar and avoid them so wonders close and then it'#s too late (

 

['Harry]

Guide dogs are soft, so it's no real surprise.

 

[bitslice]

YBanning a breed of dog is pointless, ban staffies and chavs will use rottweilers, ban them and they will use german shepherds, akitas, malamutes, etc.

No, I meant ban all those.
Pick a point where the attacks relating to a dog breed are average and ban everything above that.

You'd lose say ten or twenty large breeds, no big loss to the world.
Chavs won't get very far with training a collie to be aggressive, they have no muscle.

 

[Tefal]

You'd lose say ten or twenty large breeds

wouldn't you lose nearly 50% of breeds?

and then subsequently lower the average and have to ban another half and again and again in some kind of exponential doggy Holocaust?

 

[Castiel]

Licence and enforce licencing standards according to breed for dog ownership.......make the owner legally culpable for the actions of their dogs with statutory defences based on reasonable mitigation.

Chip all dogs, monitor dog ownership and ensure that all dogs are kept in an environment and trained to a statutory standard.

 

[Collider]

They should consider classing dogs as an offensive weapon if a prosecution can prove intent and lack of control.

If you took a knife to a guide dog there would be a lot more consequences than there are for these idiots but the intent is much the same in some cases.

All dogs are potentially dangerous and they should be chipped and controlled..most dogs with good owners will never do a bit of damage to anyone, whatever the breed.

 

[bitslice]

wouldn't you lose nearly 50% of breeds?

and then subsequently lower the average and have to ban another half and again and again in some kind of exponential doggy Holocaust?

I think there are a 150 breeds of dog, just lose the ones an average person couldn't kick off.
I don't see why the process needs to be repeated unless someone is breeding giant mutant Chihuahuas

You don't normally let people keep animals they can't control, like Lions

 

[Tefal]

I think there are a 150 breeds of dog, just lose the ones an average person couldn't kick off.
I don't see why the process needs to be repeated unless someone is breeding giant mutant Chihuahuas

I was just being silly

I wanted to use the phrase doggy Holocaust as it tickled me

 

['Harry]

Licence and enforce licencing standards according to breed for dog ownership.......make the owner legally culpable for the actions of their dogs with statutory defences based on reasonable mitigation.

Chip all dogs, monitor dog ownership and ensure that all dogs are kept in an environment and trained to a statutory standard.

Where would the money come from to fund this though? Even if there was such funds available, how could it be policed effectively?