ATX in Silverstone's ITX RVZ 03- ***full water and dual 240's ??

[orbitalwalsh]

Spoiler: True project name

Hemnes - Because my wife upgraded our whole living room to Ikea Hemnes and this is where my PC will sit

https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/p/hemnes-desk-white-10402412/

Now, most will know I have a Dynamic case and it will fit in the cupboard if i unscrew the door , put it in and reattach . My wife in her glory rejected removing the back panel.... so ... I need something that can sit on the desk, be small and be pretty... hence the Silverstone RVZ 03

And so it begins ! Like most Gamer's I own an ATX sized motherboard, which is/was a flagship model housed in a Large ATX case . Until recently with the release of Gigabytes X570 Aorus ITX board , ITX boards were normally a fraction in terms of VRM and spec's compared to their ATX counterparts. Asus do have the Impact Range but availability and cost put most people off and used cheaper models.

Currently ITX sales are dwarfed by the number of ATX sized boards sold so naturally this is where board vendors would invest the most in . I can understand this but unfortunately ATX cases are all large and space wasted /unused/unwanted .

Currently there are only 2 ATX cases on the market that can give ITX/mATX cases a run for their money in the sizing department;

Thermaltake G3 -23 litres
Sliger Cerberus X - 20 Liters

Both, which can't hold my current GPU- The Aorus RTX 2080 Xtreme . The card is a Triple slot GPU and I thought about moving to an ITX format but only to cases came to mind - Neo G Mini and Sliger 570M . One just didn't do it for me and the other is too expensive due to weak pound .
So, in steps Sliverstones RVZ 03 case !

I worked out, along with some research into HDPlex H2 case that indeed a ATX motherboard can fit into the 'chassis' of the RVZ 03 along with a SFX PSU . And luckily enough, Silverstone Tek has helped out .

Hopefully this will show with a few slight tooling tweaks, they could produce the smallest ATX mass Produced case on the market that can house a Triple slot GPU along side a 240mm AIO/CLC!

Will try to attempt to tidy this post up and get the thread looking a bit more - Pro Mod like when I get the chance but 3rd child is inbound in 7 weeks time!

@Plec @tamzzy , case should be delivered in next few mins!

 

[orbitalwalsh]

Plan and Planning :

Idea and current plan was to rotate the PSU 90 dregree and mount to the floor of the chassis . Working with a guesstimate I knew it would be out by a few mm and chassis would needed to be cut and cables budging into the front fascia... but looks like i was a little off


22/08/2019

ITX is 170mm x 170mm, ATX is 306mm x 244mm



just shout by 15mm - so again, cutting a hole in the front of the chassis will allow the mobo and psu to fit next to each other

rough guide


close up! tried plugging cables in, and DAMN! Sliverstone cables are flexible ! but all in, extra 18mm added to the length of the PSU



27/08/19

3D CAD - concept and spacing

ATX and SFX Placement . can see front of the chassis will need to be cut to allow SFX to sit flush with ATX and room for cables to bulge



X470/X570 & Z390 Aorus boards have their 24 Pin higher up the board so shouldn't class with Power Cable



My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x Silverstone SST-SX650-G SFX 650W 80 Plus Gold Modular Power Supply= £105.95

Total: £116.45 (includes shipping: £10.50)
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Dual Slot GPU and thin 240mm radiator and Silverstone 15mm fans Placement





Used XSPC 20.5mm slim rad - silverstone TD02-Slim is 22mm * didn't have any in stock for sponsorship and they are expensive and rare *
https://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=597&bno=40&tb=21&area=en

https://hexus.net/tech/reviews/cooling/91685-silverstone-tundra-td02-slim/



Because i know @Plec loves RGB - might have to get these !! But again, low stock!
https://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=829&bno=56&tb=101&area=en

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x Silverstone SST-FN123 FN Series Fan 1215 - White-Black= £6.95

Total: £15.65 (includes shipping: £8.70)
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will have to sort out shading/rendering but work computer crashes if quality is set any higher . But placed 240 quite high up - doe this to keep ports to the edges, keep VRM cool and then avoid SFX as much as possible . all depends if i go Plexi cover or not





its tight !



28/08/19 - GPU placement

Pondering on ideas of how i can hold the GPU in place as well as being flipped so fans are on show... then realised in the current ATX I have used Cooler Masters Vertical GPU mount and its almost perfect





it measures in at 120mm vs cases 105mm so come trimming will be needed . Can mount to top mounting whole that held original GPU bracket and then via the grill vent at the bottom .





Height is perfect , triple slot GPU just sits a little lower then case top - what ever that may be





Yep- Power cord need to be moved or some fancy cutting

as a note, case will always be in vertical position, so not to fussed with sag onto the mobo

Rough Placement of GPU and SFX with mobo mounted


Bottom of the case should allow 3x 92mm x 14/25mm Noctua fans to be installed as intake to increase Positive pressure and carry on the ethos of silverstone heat rise design



The top is looking questionable for any exhaust fans. maybe one 92mm at the top right but might just let physics do its thing naturally and hot air escape out the top with pressure

04/09/19 * installed- now the body work







Easiest Solution - Acquire another set of top and bottom fascia panels , cut down the gap needed and glue on ! Use modders mess between the Front fascia to the side panel and 'Blag' as an air intake/exhaust!

onto the Rad clearance



Not sure when @GIGA-Man Aorus AIO's are inbound but would look damn good on the CPU.. the rad and fan... in the bin ! Pro Copper me and they are too fat! XSPC 140mm 20mm thick rad over the PSU area and sorted ! will just Cut current metal panel for now!

actually ... the ram is taller then the SFX... JUST! - might have to go!



12/09/19

Ventilation ! As I intend to keep with the cases design of Positive pressure, the amount of heat being dumped inside will be big so needing to allow Hot air to escape out the top quicker as well as being taken in from the bottom.

Plan to Cut the Middle strip on both the Top and Bottom panels as well as the 'arrow' section on the front panel and replace with mesh.





02/10/2019

Rad and Grill idea/placement


will need to cut whole for second 120mm hole - Now what im torn by is the polished finish - ordering a 280 rad grill to cut below the Stock 120mm opening to allow the GPU to intake some air and as a highligh, show off its triple fan ARGB! I'm personally thinking to grab 240 version, cut the default grill on the 120mm opening and then slot in the 2 default 120mm filters and then the grill ontop . Least then both openings are the same

 

[orbitalwalsh]

Product Shots !!!


Silverstone Tek RVZ 03 and SX700-G SFX - kindly provided by Silverstone



ODE
My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x Silverstone Raven RVZ03B Mini-ITX HTPC Case - Black (SST-RVZ03B)= £79.99
• 1 x Silverstone Fortress SST-FTZ01B-E Mini-ITX Case - Black= £124.99

Total: £216.68 (includes shipping: £11.70)
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Spoiler: RVZ 03

Spoiler: SX700-G

02/10/2019

XSPC 240 TX !

 

[orbitalwalsh]

Modding !

SFX Hole has been cut! Slightly over sized but in theory will allow SFX to have stock or 90 degree orientation . Just need to trim more off the bottom and tidy!
Hopefull just cutting a hole and not cutting from the top down will keep the chassis rigid



Bottom of the GPU Vertical mount has been cut, roughly now 100mm from 120mm , with case height being 105mm . Again needs a tidy



should sit in flush with the top lip. will be mounted to the right hand side mounting system for the stock GPU holder


this does mean they'll be a gap with the GPU mount and chassis but the I/O cut out. in the pic below the Bracket is upside down


Luckily silverstone and coolermaster have hex vent holes
Bottom right hand corner needs to have a cut out to allow it to sit over the Kettle plug


*30/08/19* - apologies for poor pics, off my phone early this morning

Mother board is mounted !









rough GPU Placement






SFX PSU placement ! ** Pictures in DSLR now along with stock vs rotated . stock sticks out 125mm vs rotated with cables being 118mm











I need to Re-cut the GPU bracket and trim down the vent even more. I miscalculated a bit, with the space between the PCB edge and chassis wall along with how much the GPU bracket is offset by. Looks like all the Hex Grill will have to be cut out. Also the X470 Aorus has Shroud cover on the left hand side of the PCB.
Does add height which is a pain but is plastic so no shorting !





12/09/19

Top Panel cutting and Ventilation

before


after


cutting - middle bit left in for support


Will have to do the same at the bottom but may just Drill holes as the Filter/mesh will need to be on the actual chassis to block dust as dust can be sucked into the chassis via the sides here


The fan mounts will screen the mesh into the chassis at the bottom. Top it'll need to be glued into place are suck down via tape. Also needs to be sprayed black


Hole size is 0.5mm squared



Again need to cut the arrow section at the top and bottom of the front panel to match the top !


Can see light !

 

[orbitalwalsh]

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[orbitalwalsh]

This build is going to be impressive, looking forward to seeing the build log.

All the best for the build and the new addition!

hope so - in theory if i had more time , would have been able to go balls deep ! Still- tempered glass window can be ready in 14 days...

Spoiler: The Real True Name

Square Peg, Round Hole

WAHAY! How long do you estimate for complete destructi transformation?

No, fuzzy phone pics, Orbi - this build deserves sharp focus, really looking forward to this one.

Best of luck, bud - really hope it goes to plan, even if it doesn't i'm sure you'll figure out ad-hoc fixes as you go that will make it work.

haha, been looking at previous ones i did, with only one kid , wife part time working and him at nursery . Could come back home at lunch break and crack on for 30 mins a day

Has to be soon-ish by the looks of things . Even If i can get most of it roughly in place - mobo screwed down to 4 of the 9 holes and SFX in place whilst still using the PSU bracket supplied . Thinking more I can keep stock- easier it is for Silverstone or others to see Its easy enough in principle .
Hoping if i can do the above on Wednesday Launch time , we'll all see how the SFX is going to work with the chasses and Fascia . Friend should be on board to get 3D printed front fascia - again trying to keep it as stock looking . Hoping Silverstone EU can swindle CAD files from HQ but dont think that will happen !

Package is here- opened the box- FORGOT TO CHECK IF ITS WHITE! haha

 

[orbitalwalsh]

It begins.

i think i got the black version ..... PMSL

 

[orbitalwalsh]

Powder coat it?

mmm might just paint the hemnes furniture black then

 

[orbitalwalsh]

Did they send the wrong one or was it lucky dip as you got it for gratis?

not sure- but i'll take what i can get. though will actually have to look at the serial code on the box . Just as i was loading it into the shed my son ambushed me and his Boosh kids workbench is sotred in there for his 4th bday in just under a months time .

heads up, aorus boards with backplates are almost toddler proof !

 

[orbitalwalsh]

@Plec @tamzzy

imgur not working from uploading DSLR snaps from my phone so quick copy from insta

sold my self a little short but need to cut the front of the chassis and the PSU will fit in ! its all about the front fascia now

https://www.instagram.com/p/B1bT61jlkmm/

have noticed the front fascia is screwed in via the inside of the case. In theory I can use loner screws and stand offs for the time being off offset it from the chassis

 

[orbitalwalsh]

Oops lol

should still work , knew there would be a bit of work

 

[orbitalwalsh]

@Plec @tamzzy cheeky gits

right, a bit of a tease! dusted off the DSLR and tried to remember how to use it half decently



see with measurements silverstone tek listed and what i though the fascia sizing was , is a little bit off



Tried the cabling of the SFX unit, which is just incredible to hold . Sticks out about 18mm once plugged in to the unit



currently sat on my desk ..



I could reuse the PSU bracket and rotate 90 as planned , with hole cut in chassis but... its too tall and wouldn't allow a 240mm AIO. and this is all about packing the most you can get in !





Case and PSU snaps uploaded <<<<<< click link

 

[orbitalwalsh]

Operation: Square Peg, Round Hole (Determined to get this to stick )




So, did you get chance to scare yourself silly with the cutting disc?

Tomorrow hopefully . Torn, I think if mounting 90 degrees and cutting chassis , extra 20mm of cable plug almost makes it the same length as the SFX long wise with exhaust facing the top..

 

[orbitalwalsh]

CAD Render.... @Plec @tamzzy

playing around with CAD in work. Model isn't mine! but based on RVZ01 so need to tweak a bit , and then importing from Solidwork to DWG file was a bit of a hit and miss



More added. Realised I made PSU wrong, so in goes proper Silverstone SFX unit .
Quickly imported a basic intel ATX board, 24 pin is higher in the model then current Z370/90 and X470/570 boards

 

[orbitalwalsh]

Looking good.

How will you be securing the PSU?

The kettle lead looks like it may get blocked by 24 pin socket/lead - or is that not an issue with the X470?

Aorus 7 and z390/x570 boards have their 24 pin much higher up- half way in height betwene top and bottom of Dimm slots. Model used has it as the bottom .

will try rotating it 90 to see how it pans out . Managed to find an Aorus model but you've got to pay to import sketch up files to DWG So slapped in a RTX FE card . seems theres plenty of room for Triple slot GPUs and ribbon pcie cabling

 

[orbitalwalsh]

right @Plec @tamzzy

Dual Slot GPU and thin 240mm radiator and Silverstone 15mm fans Placement





Used XSPC 20.5mm slim rad - silverstone TD02-Slim is 22mm * didn't have any in stock for sponsorship and they are expensive and rare *
https://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=597&bno=40&tb=21&area=en



Because i know @Plec loves RGB - might have to get these !! But again, low stock!
https://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=829&bno=56&tb=101&area=en



will have to sort out shading/rendering but work computer crashes if quality is set any higher . But placed 240 quite high up - doe this to keep ports to the edges, keep VRM cool and then avoid SFX as much as possible . all depends if i go Plexi cover or not





its tight !

 

[orbitalwalsh]

Yay!!!

How will you strengthen the panel to support GPU and RAD if not using the Plexi glass?

i Have this in the Dynamic currently

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x CoolerMaster MasterCase Accessory Vertical GPU Holder + Riser Cable= £44.99

Total: £53.69 (includes shipping: £8.70)


120mm , case height is 105mm so some will need to be trimmed off . most likely the 7 notches that slot into a case as extra support​

will measure but might by some fluke off chance be the same height as the Stock bracket- means i could bolt it on . Since Case be be standing tall, I dont have to worry about gravity pulling it towards the motherboard .

I could also trim the width of the Vertical mount and bolt it in a few places to the back of the case Vent where the GPUs heat is exhaust out the back

 

[orbitalwalsh]

@Plec





rest of snaps can be found CLICKING here <<<