ATX3.0 psu’s and coil whine

Just realised those reports for the ATX3 Thermaltake PSUs are for the ATX sized versions. So not sure if its CWT that do the SF ones. The ATX ones do seem to have decent performance from what I can gather from reading threads about ripple, etc and the numbers on those reports.
I will keep an eye on the Cybenetics website to see if they update any further future SFX-L high wattage psu's. They seem to have some pretty detailed testing and i can post in the other forum for technical advice if needed which i can relay back to here.
 
Whilst not exactly the same, the Seasonic TX700 is supposedly able to do 969W before OPP kicks in. So there's some precedence with regards to PSU's being WAAAAaaaaayyyy overspec'd for the rating they are sold at. I think the typical PSU OPP is set at 10% or a bit more than that? And usually not close to 40%.
It does beg the question though, how much wear and tear does running these psu's at that wattage over a long period of time does to the components? Would hate to see one of these things go bang especially when coupled with expensive components.
 
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Just following up on this, started building my system yesterday and had all manner of issues. The ThermalTake PSU has coil whine, I'm assuming it sounds the same as the Asus PSU as it sounds like a failing hard drive!

It also doesn't work with my 4090, it just doesn't power up. And the card is good as I hooked it all up out of the case with an EVGA ATX PSU and it all worked.

Oh man thats bad, any idea what could be causing the gpu not to work? Did you connect using the native 12vpwr cable that comes with the psu or did you try using the adapter?

Maybe a bad cable?

Yup thats exactly how mine sounded like but different games produce different sounds, one would make it sound like a failing hard drive where as the other would make it sound like an electrical pylon buzz!
 
I used the cable that came with the PSU. Perhaps because it has those sense wires, the GPU is not getting enough juice so doesn't power on. There are no lights or fans spinning on the GPU when I power it up. Bummer as SFX PSUs are out of stock everywhere!
Very odd, my Loki has the native cable as well but it has sense pins on both ends so i assume it will just work.

Is it the 1000w version you have?

Maybe try using the adapter that does 12vhpwr to 4x8pin pcie?

I have a sneaky feeling it maybe a faulty cable.

I've seen 4090's been powered by 750w psu's so it should be more than fine assuming you have the 1000w version or even the 850w version.
 
Okay you're too limited, not enough cables natively to make it work but i don't understand why the native 12vhpwr cable isn't powering the gpu. Did you plug it in the correct way? I think the cable may only work one way? Worth a check!

With my Loki i got a 12vhpwr native cable and a 12vhpwr to 2x6+2pin pcie cable along with a single 2x6+2pin pcie cable so i could power a 4x8pin pcie gpu if whatever reason the native cable didn't work.

There just isn't enough cables to make yours work unless the PCIe (6+2Pin) has 2 ends on each cable so effectively its a 4x(6+2pin) pcie but according to the specs its not.
 
If your psu came with this sort of cable then it could work to test out whether its a faulty cable or not.

I also checked the specs of the 850w version and weirdly the amount of cables is the same. I'm guessing its a limitation of the SFX form factor as i think its not a SFX-L unless im looking at the wrong product.


(Stock image of Asus Loki 850w cable package)
 
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Unfortunately it only comes with a single cable with a daisy chain on it, so 2 connections. Perhaps the 4090 only power up if the power source is capable of feeding it 450w? Which is why it's not powering up as I know with my ATX power supply, it has to be connected via 3 PCIe connections, with 2 it won't power up. I'm guessing the power supply is communicating to the card that it can only supply 300w.
This is a possibility, however with the native 12vhpwr cable it should be able to deliver the full 600w from that one rail. According to the spec sheet the 12v rail should be able to deliver the full 750w at 62.5amps so should be no problem powering the 4090 at bootup.

Shame there's no way to test it, i would return it tbh and think about getting the 1000w version when available as that has the necessary cables and its also SFX-L provided that form factor works in your case.
 
Going to just get a Corsair SF750 for now. I usually run an UV on my 4090 anyway so it should be able to handle it until the PSU market settles down.
The SF750 is a great unit, used it for a good part of a year before i upgraded. Only thing i didn't like was the noisy fan during loads like gaming. No coil whine either so that's a plus!
 
Yeah, just the dust to worry about!

I've got a McGiver setup at the minute. Built in an NR200 with no panels on and an ATX PSU powering the lot through the sides!
I've been using the wife's hair dryer to dust all my parts when needed lol! Saves me buying one of those expensive computer duster thingies!

That's proper jank! I like it :cry:
 
I've commented in other threads about how I don't hear any coil whine. In a recent Hardware Unboxed video they said that a PC that whined in one place did not whine in another, so I wonder if mains power quality is an issue. Thus my question: does anyone who is hearing coil whine use an in-line UPS as I do?
I don't but since you mentioned that im tempted to buy one to try and see if it reduces or cancels the noise.

For a 12700k and 3090 (future 4090) what UPS would you recommend?
 
I have had the same sort of issue with two Thermaltake 850 SFX PSU's with no gpu even installed just on the desktop if open chrome and move the window around it whines.

I think they are the same OEM's, i'm sure i listed that somewhere.


Having used my Loki for a few months now, the whining has definitely dropped and its much less noticeable. Maybe partly due to me getting used to it somewhat too but it's definitely not as loud. The gpu seems to have pretty much gone silent too compared to initially when i first installed the PSU.
 
!!!!! I also have the loki 1000 and the buzzing noise is loud! Thought I was the only one experiencing this, had it for a few days now and it was on and off, couldn't put my finger on it untill today I installed pubg and the menu has unlimited fps so it pushes the gpu to 100% 5/600fps, everytime I load up the game it squeals! Not quite sure what to do now. Might change my nr200p case and get something that'll fit an ATX psu. Or could it be the single 600w cable? Has anyone tested?

Also, would it be worth an RMA? Or are they all like this..
I've tested with both cables on my 3090 and it made little difference tbh.

My experience now though after a few months of use and "breaking in" the noise has more or less disappeared to the point where i dont hear it unless i put my ear right up against the psu.
 
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