Audi R8

gadgets said:
i never said the 50 wasn't, i said the 70-300 was not the best lens for the job
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Your point is still retarded, though, because there are no optical flaws in the images he posted from the 70-300; they're in focus, there are no visible CAs, and they certainly look sharp at this size. Any flaws (no offence, OP!) are from compositional qualities wholly independent of the lens he's using.

Gear snobbery is occasionally justified, and I'll freely admit to indulging in it on occasion myself, but in this case it's just bizarre.
 
gadgets said:
i have never once said i am a pro so get your quotes right muppet and learn english it "their"
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You haven't achieved a decent command of the English language yourself based on that post. :)

It's they're not 'it their'. English should always be capitalised. I should replace 'i'.

Should I go on? Or should I be satisfied you've learnt enough for today?
 
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wow I can't actually believe some of the comments made in this thread over what lenses someone shoots with - what an absolute joke. Sadly some people think that its the equipment that makes a good photographer and not the person operating it - any pro (scrap that, anyone) that looks down on someone with lesser kit is clearly a bit of a (insert filter unfriendly word here) and I for one wouldn't give a second thought to the opinions of someone like that. I've seen some amazing photos taken with 'rubbish' kit and I've seen some very very poor photos taken with 'pro' kit.

You even mention pro's who will smirk at the use of a 70-200 VR, one of Nikons finest lenses. Clearly very informed 'pro's' that are doing that!

Oh and...
gadgets said:
for a f1.4 they are underexposed.
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Thats one of the funniest things I've heard in a while! Not sure how them being taken with a 1.4 automatically means they shouldn't be underexposed?!

And on a final note, I wish I had noticed you only shoot with a D70 and D300 before I typed all this...I don't usually interact with anyone who shoots with cheap toys, your lucky you have a 70-200 or I'd have deleted this whole comment...

(that last comment was in fact a joke by the way ;) )
 
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Gear talk is always a funny thing, I actually fell out with someone on the Farne Islands the other day, because he actually started dictating to me that you need a 400mm F2.8 lens to shoot the Dolphins in Scotland on the cromarty fourth, absolutley no other lens will do whatsoever.

When I said, "how about save £4500 and use a 400 F5.6? as you'll be shooting at F8 most of the time cause of dof"

"no no no, it needs to be a 400mm F2.8, only amateurs would use a 400 5.6 and 40D, 300 with a 1.4x isn't good enough either"

":confused: well go and spend £5k on the heaviest floodlit sports lens, see if I ****** care lol, i'll have had 3 years head start before you can afford one anyway!!"

The same person then started telling me that the MkIII is no good for shooting birds in flight, unfortunatley some of my best BIF stuff was in the car in A2 print, would have loved to show him some of them...

I just wish some people would forget about what gear people have, when I go out shooting with some of my friends we hardly ever talk about it unless something breaks...
 
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wow I can't actually believe some of the comments made in this thread over what lenses someone shoots with - what an absolute joke. Sadly some people think that its the equipment that makes a good photographer and not the person operating it - any pro (scrap that, anyone) that looks down on someone with lesser kit is clearly a bit of a (insert filter unfriendly word here) and I for one wouldn't give a second thought to the opinions of someone like that. I've seen some amazing photos taken with 'rubbish' kit and I've seen some very very poor photos taken with 'pro' kit.

You even mention pro's who will smirk at the use of a 70-200 VR, one of Nikons finest lenses. Clearly very informed 'pro's' that are doing that!

Oh and...

Thats one of the funniest things I've heard in a while! Not sure how them being taken with a 1.4 automatically means they shouldn't be underexposed?!

And on a final note, I wish I had noticed you only shoot with a D70 and D300 before I typed all this...I don't usually interact with anyone who shoots with cheap toys, your lucky you have a 70-200 or I'd have deleted this whole comment...

(that last comment was in fact a joke by the way ;) )
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for most sports events especially motor racing 400 and mostly 600 is order of the day.

i understand the frustration of not being able to get the lens you would like due to cost and spare money, like i said it took me 8 years and thousands £'s to get my current gear.

hat off to the guy for getting a trackside ticket, i've been trying for years, first excuse i was given was my gear wasn't up to scratch (hence my original comment!), then it was i am unknown and unpublished.

the only reason i could afford the D300 and the 70-200 was because i set up a company and put the cost of these through that, otherwise i would probably still be on my d70 (for a spare now) and the 70-300 vr (which incidently is now surplas to requirements)
 
There's no such thing as pros who smirk or remark at another photographers equipment. Those people are not pros they are just jerks.

I was flown by the Royal navy on a Sea King mk5 few years ago and were taken in crews of 4-5 so it was me with my then oh so lowly Canon 350D and Sigma 18-200 lens whilst the pros in the chopper had massive Canon and Nikon lenses/bodies and not a single one of them smirked or remarked on what I was shooting with but instead exchanged conversations about what we were shooting.

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This guy from a magazine broke his hood clean off his expensive Nikkor, bet he was pleased! had to gaffa tape it instead,
 
mrk said:
There's no such thing as pros who smirk or remark at another photographers equipment. Those people are not pros they are just jerks.

...not a single one of them smirked or remarked on what I was shooting with but instead exchanged conversations about what we were shooting.
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Exactly. Any decent photographer will be more interested in the subject at hand rather than what your using to capture it.

Gadgets, granted there are time when a fast lens or more reach is going to help but your comments really make you sound like you may be jealous that the OP got in to an event with a press pass where as you have been unable to do so - even though you have more expensive kit. Either that or your just an out and out equipment snob and think better gear automatically means better pictures and commands more respect.
 
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not a snob at all, i have been up to leicester square many times talking to pro photographers and while all them are happy to talk to you they have all said in no uncertain terms they get peed off with people pitching up to events without the gear (that is a lot more polite than what they have actually said to me).

that has been my personal experience with pros out and about which is what i said in my first post.
 
gadgets said:
not a snob at all, i have been up to leicester square many times talking to pro photographers and while all them are happy to talk to you they have all said in no uncertain terms they get peed off with people pitching up to events without the gear (that is a lot more polite than what they have actually said to me).

that has been my personal experience with pros out and about which is what i said in my first post.
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This must be nominated for post of the year, you must be winding us all up now surely? :D

If theres anything i've ever noticed about Pros, is they get more annoyed with joe public WITH all the gear (like me/others) because we do their job for fun, most of the time just as good or better.

I've yet to meet a pro who looks down on someone because they have a £300 body as opposed to a £5000 one.
 
ok i must be lying about the way pros have spoken to me when i have been asking them about going to venues and yes i have winding you up.

i have had pros say to me what you think you can get a DLSR and just turn up, it takes years, this is our job not a bit of weekend fun with plenty of f's thrown in as well.

its the look in the face and the roll of the eyes when you get your camera out ..... oh no not another F'ing enthusiast.

if you have never met a pro who doesn't like joe public turning up then you have been lucky and met the nice ones.
 
gadgets said:
ok i must be lying about the way pros have spoken to me when i have been asking them about going to venues and yes i have winding you up.

i have had pros say to me what you think you can get a DLSR and just turn up, it takes years, this is our job not a bit of weekend fun with plenty of f's thrown in as well.

its the look in the face and the roll of the eyes when you get your camera out ..... oh no not another F'ing enthusiast.

if you have never met a pro who doesn't like joe public turning up then you have been lucky and met the nice ones.
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Let's get this straight... they object to the fact that people don't realise the hard work and technical skill needed to become a professional photographer... by insulting people's gear? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Still, you've backpedalled considerably from your original point...
 
gadgets said:
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All pros care about is making money and getting the shots in first. The ones i've ever met (Sports/motorsports shooters) are mostly shooting for agencies and magazines, so they don't really give a monkeys who turns up with whatever gear - because they're images go straight to the editor of the publication, not flickr/forums. Which is what distinguishes them from an "enthusiast" - they've earned their place at the table.
 
It sounds like gadgets has just spoken to a bunch of paps. I'd hardly count their opinion as valid 'professionals'.
 
gadgets said:
ok i must be lying about the way pros have spoken to me when i have been asking them about going to venues and yes i have winding you up.
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Going by this thread I can't help but wonder if its your attitude thats making them speak to you in that manner rather than the gear you have with you...

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Scam said:
It sounds like gadgets has just spoken to a bunch of paps. I'd hardly count their opinion as valid 'professionals'.
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Thats the case.
 
On original topic I like the photographs a lot, well done. The R8 shots are great especially the gear stick shot as already commented upn. I can see that sort of composition and quality in the R8 brochure.
 
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