Audi S3 Testdrive report

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Well, after a break due to house purchase, the time has come to begin auditioning again for the replacement for my beloved Civic VTi. My finances are nicely settled and well sorted, so I've been looking at various options, mainly german and reasonably small. (Before anyone starts, I know I could have a 3 or a 5 series, or an A4 or A6, but having driven them, I don't want either, they are bigger than I need or want for my daily runabout.)

So far I thought I'd narrowed down my choice to either a BMW 130i or Audi A3 sportback 3.2 DSG. It all seemed a good plan, I'm not a fan of turbocharged cars generally, especially ones with lag, hesitancy or a reluctance to rev (MkV Golf GTi I'm looking at you with the last one), and the sudden rush of torque tends not to be good for my partner who has chronic neck pain that isn't going to improve, and I will admit to being sorely tempted by the DSG due to my knackered left knee from a skiing injury, so off we went (well, actually we were already in Exeter, but still), the plan being to visit Exeter Audi and Westerly's BMW on Marsh Barton. As it happened, I didn't get to the BMW garage at all, and unfortunately, Exeter Audi didn't have a 3.2 A3 to test (manual or DSG), which was a shame. They did, however, have their S3 Demonstrator to hand, so given that the price is pretty much the same (or depending on options, the S3 can work out quite a bit cheaper as it has leather etc as standard and the A3 doesn't), and after some arm-twisting by the sales rep ;) we took the S3 out for a spin.

Climbing into the car, the first thing both me and my partner noted was how comfortable and supportive the seats were, and how much of a nice place to be the car was. It all felt very solid, high quality and the little S3 badges dotted in various places were a very nice touch. Turning the key, the engine sprang into life with a nice throaty growl, and we moved off. I was actually very surprised how light the car was to drive, the clutch was much lighter than the one on my civic, and trundling through the traffic coming out of Marsh Barton was really easy, the car didn't mind going slowly (unlike some performance cars) and it also gave the car a chance to warm up before we got onto some roads where it could be opened up a bit more. We headed out to the A38 which gave me the chance to let the car go a little. Very first impressions are actually a little disappointing, it doesn't seem that quick low down, compared (again) to the MkV golf, but keep the foot down, or choose a lower gear, and it changed. The turbo comes in with very little noticable change, little lag, it actually felt more like an NA engine, but when worked, the car is very, very fast. We went up to Chudleigh (tackling Holden hill in the process, and having to watch speed carefully as the car wanted to go much faster up the hill that would have been legal), then through chudleigh and through a couple of back roads leading back onto the A38 at Harkham bends, giving a good opportunity for some high speed cornering. I tried (at the encouragement of the sales rep) to get the ESP lights on, but at already well into illegal speeds, the car was just sticking to the road in a most impressive way. Suitably impressed I stopped trying and came to the conclusion that in the dry, without doing something incredibly dumb, you'd be going very quickly before you troubled the car (and would potentially have a very big accident). The car felt totally neutral, balanced and very reassuring. The brakes on the car were very impressive, 17 inch discs no doubt help, but they had very good, progressive stopping power, and did truely feel like they could stand the car on it's nose if you asked them to. I was also impressed with the ride, I normally dislike cars with 18" rims, especially small ones, as normally they lead to a crashy, harsh ride, but it seems they've made an effort with the S3, the ride was smoother than my own car, without sacrificing handling or responsiveness.

We got back to the dealership and looked through the price and options list, surprisingly the car with the options I would like works out a fair couple of grand cheaper than the 3.2 Quattro I was looking at (by the time you've added leather and a few other bits and pieces), the S3 has better economy and costs the same to insure.

In conclusion, I was very impressed by the S3, and I wasn't expecting to be. I didn't think it was going to be the kind of car I was looking for, but it's risen up the list quite a bit following driving it. It's a lively car, it looks great in an understated way, which suits me just fine, and it was very quick. I'm still waiting to drive the V6, mainly because of the DSG, but I'm sorely tempted, I must admit. The S3 is one of the few cars I've driven recently that actually left me seriously consider buying one. It's not cheap (approx £28k for the spec I'm looking at), but neither are the other cars on my list, and looking at second hand A3 DSG values, I'm not going to save that much buying second hand if that's what I chose to do, as much as people say buying new cars is a bad idea, it's only money and you can't take it with you.

More reviews to follow as I test the other cars on my list :)
 
There are a lot of mixed reviews for the new S3.

But it looks like you had a blast on the test drive!

I have an '02 225 S3 and I love it. Very solid cars an exceptional build quality with enough performance and handling to keep me smiling :)
 
Nice mini review, I've been looking at these to.

My prediction is that the harsh ride in the 130i will scare you off.
 
brakeinup said:
There are a lot of mixed reviews for the new S3.

But it looks like you had a blast on the test drive!

I have an '02 225 S3 and I love it. Very solid cars an exceptional build quality with enough performance and handling to keep me smiling :)

Most of the complaints in the reviews I've read centre around the cost of the thing, and it is undoubtably an expensive car. However, it's looking like being cheaper than the 3.2 I had in mind previously, and about the same price as a reasonably well specc'd 130i. The situation that's led to me being able to afford to look at this sort of car has also left me thinking 'What the hell' with regards to worrying too much about the cost if it's what I want, so it's all good :)

And yeah, I did really enjoy the test drive, more so I think because I wasn't expecting to, so it was a very nice surprise.

Ev0 said:
With an S3 the flat bottomed steering wheel is a must have option :P Looks so much nicer :)

Absolutely, the flat bottomed wheel rocks :)
 
The only real reason to get the 3.2 over the S3 is purely for the DSG, apart from that there is no reason worth justifying. Even the look of the S3 is amazing, much more defined in looks than the A3! What colour was it?

I imagine the S3s power gave you a rush, below 6 seconds for 0-60 and I reckon it can beat an M3 quite easily. The great thing about the S3 which you already mentioned was fuel economy and thats another plus, of course when you foot it it would probably drop to 10-17 mpg!

The S3 would also hold its value better in the future, if you are looking for something smallish and fast as well as comfort then go for the S3. The old S3 is no way comparable to this one! I would forget about the BMW or any other car in this class, go for the S3 if you are happy with manual.

Don't forget; you get a lot in the S3 for the price that is asked, which is value for money in my eyes!

Was the car Sprint Blue? That colour is just ohhh! :P
 
Car wasn't sprint blue, it was black, but if I got one it would most likely be sprint blue :)
 
They had one in Sprint Blue in the showroom at Listers Coventry today and it does look nice in that colour.

Pretty much all the reviews I've seen of the S3 rate the car itself very highly, just falling down on price really.

If you end up going for one (or an A3 3.2) then spec the Concert stereo and retro-fit the RNS-E nav unit afterward for a fraction of what Audi want for it.
 
jamoor said:
are the golf r32 in anyway similar to these cars?

The golf R32 is very similar to the 3.2 quattro, the S3 is like a golf GTI on some serious steroids and 4wd. (Strangely I drove the Golf GTI when that launched and was mostly unimpressed, but the S3 is a very different beast to drive)
 
jamoor said:
would the r32 be better seeing its 4wd, or is the s3 RWD?

The S3 is 4wd as well, I'm pretty sure an S3 would be quicker when driven in anger, although the R32 is probably quicker for lazing around in.
 
There's been a lot of discussion about the S3 vs R32 over on tyresmoke. The "official" 0-100 times are the most interesting. They show the the S3 doing it in 13.8s, the R32 doing it in 17.8. As you can probably imagine, this has caused a bit of a row between the two camps of people, a suitable track day is currently being organised to see if the discrepency is really this large!
 
Tumbletop said:
There's been a lot of discussion about the S3 vs R32 over on tyresmoke. The "official" 0-100 times are the most interesting. They show the the S3 doing it in 13.8s, the R32 doing it in 17.8. As you can probably imagine, this has caused a bit of a row between the two camps of people, a suitable track day is currently being organised to see if the discrepency is really this large!

17.8 for an R32?? I'm surprised it's so "low".
 
I'm so out of the loop lately, didn't even realise the S3 was out already. Spent some time perving over it on the Audi website last night after reading about it here...really does look stunning.
 
zain said:
I imagine the S3s power gave you a rush, below 6 seconds for 0-60 and I reckon it can beat an M3 quite easily.
Ermm, not meaning to trample on the parade or anything, but I suspect it can't beat an M3 quite easily, or at all, in fact! :p

M3 is significantly more powerful, yet only marginally heavier!

I like the S3. In fact, I like nearly everything Audi have churned out as of late - I'm liking their style of design at the moment :)
 
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Evo timed a R32 to 100 in 15.2secs however its still slower than the S3, heres a video of both on the track with the lady driving the Golf who regulary drives the ring taxi and attempted to get a transit van round the ring in under 10mins on topgear (Merc sprinter would have done it no problem !)

Its in german however they do look close on the track (timed laps at the end)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6059753237290076567&q=s3

A standard S3 will not be faster than a M3 however the tunning companies are already getting 310bhp out a otherwise standard car. Talk is with more development and replacing the exhaust it will be nudging 330-340bhp and 340lbft that would be a match for a M3 however still not faster.

Edit: Just watched it again and it may be me but the Golf seems to have slightly less bodyroll but would have the S3 over it anyday.
 
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Dangerous Dave said:
Evo timed a R32 to 100 in 15.2secs however its still slower than the S3, heres a video of both on the track with the lady driving the Golf who regulary drives the ring taxi and attempted to get a transit van round the ring in under 10mins on topgear (Merc sprinter would have done it no problem !)
You mean Sabine.
Talk is with more development and replacing the exhaust it will be nudging 330-340bhp and 340lbft that would be a match for a M3 however still not faster.
http://www.motorauthority.com/cars/audi/the-400hp-audi-s3/
 
Dangerous Dave said:
A standard S3 will not be faster than a M3 however the tunning companies are already getting 310bhp out a otherwise standard car. Talk is with more development and replacing the exhaust it will be nudging 330-340bhp and 340lbft that would be a match for a M3 however still not faster.
Oh yeah, there is plenty of cheap tuning potential! If the 1.8T engine is anything to go by, we'll be seeing 400hp from the 2.0TFSI soon :p

Edit: Looking above, it seems 400hp is on the money!
 
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