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Good watch, so the fuel sensors are made near me.
Australian Grand Prix 2014, Melbourne - Race 1/19
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The more I hear about this, the more convinced I am that Red Bull are screwed.
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Wow, I always knew red-bull were an arrogant team, and had read a lot about this incident, but that is pretty special even from them!!
Someone needs to let them know, they are not Ferrari
Someone needs to let them know, they are not Ferrari
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I am a big F1 fan and have been for many years.
The first race of the 2014 season and I am not liking the new formula at all !
For there is no atmosphere at with cars !
I was going to book a holiday in Europe and incorporate a F1 weekend, however I am not sure I would ant to spend my money on a formula that no atmosphere and half the field retire through mechanical issues ! !
I do hope it gets better
The first race of the 2014 season and I am not liking the new formula at all !
For there is no atmosphere at with cars !
I was going to book a holiday in Europe and incorporate a F1 weekend, however I am not sure I would ant to spend my money on a formula that no atmosphere and half the field retire through mechanical issues ! !
I do hope it gets better
Soldato
Not able to watch this at the moment, would you be able to summarise the part about Williams' gearing? They were the only team I noticed using 8th gear at all over the course of the weekend in Melbourne.
5/22 cars retired with mechanical issues. That's less than 1/4!
At last year's opening race, 3/22 retired with mechanical issues. When you now consider that we have brand new engines, with more components to fail, as well as new energy recovery systems and brake-by-wire, two extra cars really is not bad at all.
Soldato
Five retirements with mechanical issues is impressive. I was expecting half the field to fail to finish, as was the way in the late 80s/early 90s.
Soldato
Williams have gone shorter with gearing than the rest of the grid, which may explain why their cars looked a bit more skittish in the wet sessions over the GP weekend.
Soldato
5/22 cars retired with mechanical issues. That's less than 1/4!
6 with Kobayashi's rear brake failure, though Vettel and Hamilton may well have finished if they'd carried on trundling around.
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You have to wonder why they've gone this short though
They are going to be mullered at Monza etc, whilst dominating Monaco (and places where acceleration out of the corners, is key).
Then again Force India appear to have done the reverse, so the opposite could be said of them.
You have to wonder why they've gone this short though
They are going to be mullered at Monza etc, whilst dominating Monaco (and places where acceleration out of the corners, is key).
Then again Force India appear to have done the reverse, so the opposite could be said of them.
Monza is unique, so surely 1 (theoretically, lets see what actually happens) bad race will be outweighed by the better gearing choices for most other tracks.
Soldato
Teams are allowed to change gear ratios at mid-season this year anyway.
Their current ratios won't help that much at Monaco (and certainly not "dominating" help). Only the second half of the ratios are really effective at Monaco - the lower gears will likely be the same or similar as at most other tracks - afterall you can't drastically change first gear, as you need that for exiting the pits and the start, and subsequent gears will likely be predetermined after that. It's only when you get to fourth and fifth gears where you start spreading them out for medium-speed and high-speed tracks. I expect they'll be hitting the limiter on some of the tracks with longer straights, and notably Montreal, but not drastically. It will limit their DRS moves though.
Their current ratios won't help that much at Monaco (and certainly not "dominating" help). Only the second half of the ratios are really effective at Monaco - the lower gears will likely be the same or similar as at most other tracks - afterall you can't drastically change first gear, as you need that for exiting the pits and the start, and subsequent gears will likely be predetermined after that. It's only when you get to fourth and fifth gears where you start spreading them out for medium-speed and high-speed tracks. I expect they'll be hitting the limiter on some of the tracks with longer straights, and notably Montreal, but not drastically. It will limit their DRS moves though.
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You have to wonder why they've gone this short though
They are going to be mullered at Monza etc, whilst dominating Monaco (and places where acceleration out of the corners, is key).
Then again Force India appear to have done the reverse, so the opposite could be said of them.
There is one allowed ratio change this year.
Soldato
Ah, I see. Seems an interesting choice.
His race was over so quickly I forgot about it.
6/22 still isn't bad though, considering the number of new technology that has had very limited testing.
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Ferrari had two issues, Maldonado's car failed before the race though and then failed again, other cars failed/has issues in practice.
However, the real issues aren't all going to crop up in the first race and not entirely sure why people thought they would. 5 engines, 19 races, 3-4 races an engine.... when these engines are near the end of their lifespan is when I expect way more issues.
It also depends how teams approach it, they'll take a new engine for some tracks, older engine for others so it's not like the third race everyone will be on a engine that has done two races, but I do expect some serious issues in terms teams having loads more failures with battery packs, ers, engine, gearboxes after they've done 2-3 races rather than when completely fresh.
I think that so many teams saw the finishing flag as a win rather than a specific position also helped with less failures. A Hulk train and Ferrari's having a lack of power helped, if Alonso got past Hulk quickly and was pushing to chase down the guy infront, if that guy was pushing harder to stay ahead of Alonso, etc, etc.
I think the rest of the season will be incredibly mixed bag in terms of reliability.
However, the real issues aren't all going to crop up in the first race and not entirely sure why people thought they would. 5 engines, 19 races, 3-4 races an engine.... when these engines are near the end of their lifespan is when I expect way more issues.
It also depends how teams approach it, they'll take a new engine for some tracks, older engine for others so it's not like the third race everyone will be on a engine that has done two races, but I do expect some serious issues in terms teams having loads more failures with battery packs, ers, engine, gearboxes after they've done 2-3 races rather than when completely fresh.
I think that so many teams saw the finishing flag as a win rather than a specific position also helped with less failures. A Hulk train and Ferrari's having a lack of power helped, if Alonso got past Hulk quickly and was pushing to chase down the guy infront, if that guy was pushing harder to stay ahead of Alonso, etc, etc.
I think the rest of the season will be incredibly mixed bag in terms of reliability.
There is a 4 day cooling off period I believe.