Poll: Austrian Grand Prix 2017, Spielberg - Race 9/20

Rate the 2017 Austrian Grand Prix out of ten

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timmeh said:
Most boring season for quite some time despite there being 3 teams battling for wins instead of the 1 we've had for the past 3 seasons? Ok
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The problem is even though there are different winners the racing itself isn't great because of these massive cars that can't follow each other. All the rules fixed is Mercedes dominance. They did nothing for the racing, overtakes, following etc. (Granted the new rules weren't supposed to.)
 
timmeh said:
Most boring season for quite some time despite there being 3 teams battling for wins instead of the 1 we've had for the past 3 seasons? Ok
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Yes, it is. There is nothing happening on the track. That's what I am getting at. Anyone should have figured out when If they read my last sentance. Who cares if there are more than one team or driver in the running for the championship if the races are so boring because of lack of overtaking on the track. It's not as if they are passing each other for the wins on the track.
 
So Vettel was still pushing the jump start thing even after the race...

Hes just coming across as a cheating baby this season to be honest. As soon as things get competitive he just turns in to a ****.
 
.2 seconds isn't even anticipation, it's just a darn good start. Vets 0.4s reaction time was darn slow

The average reaction time for humans is 0.25 seconds to a visual stimulus, 0.17 for an audio stimulus, and 0.15 seconds for a touch stimulus.
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Getting a huge sense of hypocrisy and 'pot kettle black' with Vettel; apparently he still doesn't believe Bottas didn't jump start.
And you wonder, pal, why you're disliked!! He's gonna get torn to shreds by the crowd next weekend!
 
pogomonkeh said:
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/...vement--within-allowed-tolerances----fia.html

slight jump but within allowed rules, so vettel/riccardo kind of right from there view on grid
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That link doesn't say there was a jump, but a small movement. I read that as, before the lights went out the car moved but stopped before pulling off exceptionally after the lights went off. I'm willing to bet that a large number of drivers do the same pre light movements on most races.
 
RE jump start: it does take time though for bottas to release the clutch. Then time for everything to engage. It would be interesting to see when the rear tyres started to move.

I don't think he "jumped" the lights but I'm pretty sure he anticipated it.....But good on him he still got it bob on either way.
 
It had a few limited overtakes and a bit of drama at the start but the race as a whole was bloody awful.

If they're just gonna limp around on dead tyres, they should force harder compounds or make more pitstops mandatory. Aint nobody got time for racing where they have to save tyres.
 
I liked the race tho I only watched the highlights it would have been better if vetted had overtaken bottas at the end of race imo also if kimmi had challenged Hamilton more also during the end of the race.
MooMoo444 said:
It had a few limited overtakes and a bit of drama at the start but the race as a whole was bloody awful.

If they're just gonna limp around on dead tyres, they should force harder compounds or make more pitstops mandatory. Aint nobody got time for racing where they have to save tyres.
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Yep make two stops mandatory but keep the two different tyre minimum thing
 
That was a pretty dull race, only artificially livened up towards the end when the leading cars began to catch each other. Decent drive from Grosjean, and I'm not quite sure why Hamilton was so downbeat at the end. The gearbox penalty had been known for days, and in the context of the race alone he had a good recovery drive.
 
mattyg said:
RE jump start: it does take time though for bottas to release the clutch. Then time for everything to engage. It would be interesting to see when the rear tyres started to move.

I don't think he "jumped" the lights but I'm pretty sure he anticipated it.....But good on him he still got it bob on either way.
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Except you're not allowed to anticipate.

It's now been proven beyond doubt that his car did start moving a fraction before the lights went out. The problem is that they don't use video to measure the jump start but a sensor in the track and this has far more margin in it, resulting in a measured reaction time of 0.2s despite Bottas pretty much moving the moment the lights changed. That's a hideous discrepancy in the "pinnacle of motorsport" which regularly splits drivers by thousands of a second. Another technical farce in F1, why am I surprised?
 
Vertigo1 said:
It's now been proven beyond doubt that his car did start moving a fraction before the lights went out. The problem is that they don't use video to measure the jump start but a sensor in the track and this has far more margin in it, resulting in a measured reaction time of 0.2s despite Bottas pretty much moving the moment the lights changed. That's a hideous discrepancy in the "pinnacle of motorsport" which regularly splits drivers by thousands of a second. Another technical farce in F1, why am I surprised?
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I thought they said the video didn't show any movement before the lights went out? The movement began exactly on the frame the lights went.

edit: I've just read the article above and it doesn't sound like a farce to me. They actually allow incremental movement due to start prep changes, which seems reasonable. You don't want drivers being penalised because a clutch point change made the car move 3mm.
 
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