Autism

Alphane · 17 Mar 2012 at 00:59

The background to my question first i suppose

In my work with a games alliance as a 'officer' and moderating a live chat room, I came to meet a young lad form Holland who after I had cause to discuss his behaviour with him he confided in me that he suffered with Autsim and ADHD.

Also I find medical language very difficult to decipher and frustrating to understand.

So would anyone be good enough to explain to me in laymans terms how my friend would differ from the accepted 'norm' also what is Savant about , I vaguely understand it means soemthing along the lines of highly talented in a specific area.

Thanks all

A.

Zefan · 17 Mar 2012 at 01:01

Autism is a word that covers a huuuuuuge range of things as far as I know.

I don't really know enough to give you any more information on it, just my initial thought.

PermaBanned · 17 Mar 2012 at 01:04

If Autism is a spectrum then we're all on it

exhashdotdot · 17 Mar 2012 at 01:10

To put it very simply. Autism is a disorder which tends to affects a person's ability to socialise and communicate with others.

But it's a very very large topic - heck, half the people here are autistic by some definitions.

Neil79 · 17 Mar 2012 at 01:16

Difference is how many here are Autistic or think they are?, how many are actually diagnosed by a shrink

I'm Autistic and have OCD ( Diagnosed ), In my early days I wouldn't last a few months on this forum. I'd come across trolling and down right nasty, I'd become very fustrated easily with other people and not take sarcasm too well. People would be calling for my perm ban

BarBrawllin · 17 Mar 2012 at 01:17

exhashdotdot said:
To put it very simply. Autism is a disorder which tends to affects a person's ability to socialise and communicate with others.

But it's a very very large topic - heck, half the people here are autistic by some definitions.

a lot of technicly minded people are autistic/ADHD/savants. I think if i had been born 10 years later id have been diagnosed as having ADD.

Philtor · 17 Mar 2012 at 01:17

It's all about the rules, regardless of what condition you have. So because the fella has a certain condition does it mean he can take the **** ? It wouldn't be allowed on here so why differ?

Neil79 · 17 Mar 2012 at 01:20

philtor said:
It's all about the rules, regardless of what condition you have. So because the fella has a certain condition does it mean he should take the **** ? It wouldn't be allowed on here so why differ?

Because they don't see it as taking the **** until it's too late, usually ending up thinking " Why did I even bother to say such and such ", " What have I done ".

However there are some that use Autism as an excuse, which **** me off

BarBrawllin · 17 Mar 2012 at 01:22

Neil79 said:
Difference is how many here are Autistic or think they are?, how many are actually diagnosed by a shrink

I'm Autistic and have OCD ( Diagnosed ), In my early days I wouldn't last a few months on this forum. I'd come across trolling and down right nasty, I'd become very fustrated easily with other people and not take sarcasm too well. People would be calling for my perm ban

Is there any benefit to being officialy labled? Like do you get medications or psychiatric help? I've thought about going to see somebody lol. im one of those OCD people who get annoyed by something online then end up doing some nasty stuff like wrecking the entire website if possable

got banned from a video chat site once(livevideo.com) and swore to the admins "i'll be back" terminator style

,even i thought it was just an idle threat but proceeeded to stay up for 5/6 days solid looking through the code(my eyes were burning) untill i found a weak spot and totaly wrecked it,ahhh,the good old days.

Needless to say its completely wiped off the map now.

Philtor · 17 Mar 2012 at 01:23

Neil79 said:
Because they don't see it as taking the **** until it's too late, usually ending up thinking " Why did I even bother to say such and such ", " What have I done ".

However there are some that use Autism as an excuse, which **** me off

Fair point but you have to question why society accepts that sort of behaviour and says nowt because said person has a condition they cannot control. Should they be allowed to be let loose on the internet if they are that unstable?

Neil79 · 17 Mar 2012 at 01:24

BarBrawllin said:
Is there any benefit to being officialy labled? Like do you get medications or psychiatric help? I've thought about going to see somebody lol. im one of those OCD people who get annoyed by something online then end up doing some nasty stuff like wrecking the entire website if possable got banned from a video chat site once and stayed up for 5 days solid looking through the code untill i found a weak spot and totaly wrecked it,ahhh,the good old days.

I'd rather not go into it

However Benefits?, well it mainly comes across through Government and Educational means. For example if you were to go on Income Support and ask for medical help, you're unlikely to get it just on the basis you THINK you have autism. You may even think you have autism/ocd and a shrink might tell you that you don't which kinda changes the perspective!.

philtor said:
Fair point but you have to question why society accepts that sort of behaviour and says nowt because said person has a condition they cannot control. Should they be allowed to be let loose on the internet if they are that unstable?

Well, I was let loose on the internet and I was unstable yet I got better with age, I've made a ton of friends got on with a lot of people yet autism gets in the way on occasion. Go back 5 or more years and believe me you'd see a rather nasty person. Not by choice though

Philtor · 17 Mar 2012 at 01:31

Neil79 said:
I'd rather not go into it

However Benefits?, well it mainly comes across through Government and Educational means. For example if you were to go on Income Support and ask for medical help, you're unlikely to get it just on the basis you THINK you have autism. You may even think you have autism/ocd and a shrink might tell you that you don't which kinda changes the perspective!.

Well, I was let loose on the internet and I was unstable yet I got better with age, I've made a ton of friends got on with a lot of people yet autism gets in the way on occasion. Go back 5 or more years and believe me you'd see a rather nasty person. Not by choice though

Sorry mate.. you have Autism? You are having a normal chat on the forum

I meant no harm fella.

Neil79 · 17 Mar 2012 at 01:33

philtor said:
Sorry mate.. you have Autism? You are having a normal chat on the forum I meant no harm fella.

Yep Autism and OCD I was diagnosed in my early 20's however that's nothing compared to the pain i'm going through at the moment. I even have the war wounds on my stomach

. But still no harm done, i'm very calm at this time as long as people don't take the **** then ask away

Will answer again when I wake up zzzz

BarBrawllin · 17 Mar 2012 at 01:37

I think some kids i see on TV who apparently have ADHD are just badly behaved in my opinion(i know im not an expert) and have bad parents in a way because they dont know how to controll their behaviour, then a doctor who gets paid for prescribing drugs puts a label on them and makes money from it all in the process. They are even giving stuff like ritalin to babies in the USA :eek:

(how the hell can you diagnose a baby with that?!!?) The thing is with real autism and ADHD/ADD you can get a brain scan done and see certain abnormalities,are they really doing this with all these kids their drugging up? Sometime i wonder...

Philtor · 17 Mar 2012 at 01:41

I guess people have preconceptions and that's where the problem exists. Your a Caporegime however so change that avatar for a start

oxygene · 17 Mar 2012 at 01:42

I have to say I have seen a rise in its general coverage these days. Especially as 2 of my favourite tv shows have someone with Aspergers in the forefront.

Neil79 · 17 Mar 2012 at 01:44

Or in the case of southpark

Ass Burgers

oxygene · 17 Mar 2012 at 01:44

Hence one of the myriad reasons I dont watch south park.

SexyGreyFox · 17 Mar 2012 at 01:57

Alphane said:
also what is Savant about , I vaguely understand it means soemthing along the lines of highly talented in a specific area.

Thanks all

A.

Savants are quite rare and very special people.
There's a lad earning a fortune painting pictures of landscapes and all he does is look at the scene for seconds and can draw the tiniest details.
I remember another Savant who learnt conversational Icelandic in less than a week (Icelandic is supposed to be the hardest language to learn apparently).
Another Savant can calculate complex maths questions and he sees them as coloured shapes.
They did tests with him and changed the questions around but still gave the same answers and he still saw the same coloured shapes - he couldn't remember his name though.

BarBrawllin · 17 Mar 2012 at 02:16

Dimple said:
Another Savant can calculate complex maths questions and he sees them as coloured shapes.

Synesthesia.People with that trait have their sense's linked together in their brain,physical connections in the brain between totaly unrelated sense's like taste and eyesight can be linked together so that when they taste a polomint they might see a smooth marble surface somewhere in their mind,or they can have their touch and taste sense linked up so when they feel a marble surface they taste a polomint

,or they have their eyesight and hearing linked together neurologicly so when they listen to music they see a kaleidoscope of colours similar to the "visualisation" feature on computer audio players super imposed over their vision or in another part of their brains "VRAM" if you can call it that. this can happen with any of the 5 sense's. People who have all 5 linked together are the ones who can see numbers as colours and they have more "hooks" in their brain to store information in so they can have things like a photographic memory and store info in ways that other people cant,it gives them more associations between information to work with in their mind for better recall. For instance they might see something highly complex and instead of it just being stored in the visual memory it can be stored in their auditory memory and associated with sounds and at the same time be interpreted by another sense like touch and somehow stored as a "feeling" that can later be recalled. i probobly didnt explain it well but i think its fascinating

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synesthesia