well that's much fairer.
Away goals rule
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well that's much fairer.
**** me, you're the biggest lunatic I've ever known!
The point of this thread is to discuss whether away goals is the correct way to determine the outcome of a game not to point out that it will be used when gd is the same - which if it wasn't obvious, the goal difference for both sides will always be 0 in a drawn 2 legged tie.
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It has to be there sadly, knockout football cannot go back to the old days of eternal replays and there has to be an incentive to not play anti-football.
If more teams saw beyond shoving 10 men behind the ball and lumping it to someone fast to try and get through a round then it wouldn't be a problem, but football will always be stranded by clubs intent on winning at any cost, regardless of the fans, the entertainment or the event its self.
Next we will debate if penalties are a fair way to end any knockout round....
Might as well go back to the 50's and decide major results by drawing lots. Quiz question name a major round decided by lots?
If more teams saw beyond shoving 10 men behind the ball and lumping it to someone fast to try and get through a round then it wouldn't be a problem, but football will always be stranded by clubs intent on winning at any cost, regardless of the fans, the entertainment or the event its self.
Next we will debate if penalties are a fair way to end any knockout round....
Might as well go back to the 50's and decide major results by drawing lots. Quiz question name a major round decided by lots?
that's why i said from a table point of view?
Firstly, why would it matter in the context of this debate? We're trying to discuss whether it should be used, not whether it is used?
Answering your question, near enough every single association does things differently. In the EPL if goal difference and goals scored are equal then a play-off is played. In Europe they don't even use GD, they just look at head to head results.
because if you'd looked at the post Tom84 made that i was responding to, you'd see that the 'debate' had gone down the route of % of defence and offence and that a home team should be expected to keep a clean sheet (in the exception of wigan)
there's little point in discussing should iit be used or not if you're not going to discuss such things, is there?
You're nuts, there's no other explanation.
Tom was trying to explain how ultimately there's no difference in terms of performance from winning 3-0 and 4-1. On one hand you might have attacked slightly better but defended slightly worse - overall though it's the same. He's said nothing that would prompt a reply like yours from anybody with any sense. Your reply had nothing to do with Tom's post, nor any use in this debate and on top of that, what you were trying to suggest was wrong too.
In the case of Spurs and Inter, both sides ended the tie scoring and conceding the same amount of goals. Looking at the results in isolation, you can't argue that winning 3-0 is any better than winning 4-1 or vice versa. There's only 1 reason why the away goals rule was introduced (nearly 50 years ago) and that was to stop teams being too defensive away from home - and as I've said already, I don't believe that reasoning applies anymore.
And Inter scored 4 at home, Spurs only got 3. Maybe we should have a home goals rule.
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Except they weren't
Granted I only half watched it as I had stuff to do but it looked like they were attacking to much IMO.
Besides nothing more painful than watching that Fa cup game where Chelsea came from 2 nil down
EDIT Is this a lets all have ago at cm1179 thread?
He brings most of it on himself. As you can see from the first page, his first response to a genuine thread from Tom was that of a 13 year old. It's then very frustrating trying to discuss something with him when he struggles to understand things and his posts don't make sense either.
Seems to be a lot of butt hurt people around tonight because Tottenham went through.
Can't see the issue personally, 3-0 shutout at home trumps a 4-1 I'm afraid. Although the teams technically scored the same over two legs the deciding factor should rightly be the shutout at home.
Can't see the issue personally, 3-0 shutout at home trumps a 4-1 I'm afraid. Although the teams technically scored the same over two legs the deciding factor should rightly be the shutout at home.
err i think you'll find you can.
Explain to me, logically, why winning 3-0 is better than winning 4-1.
This should be fun.
That really isn't the case, it might appear that way because there's a lot of exchange backwards and forwards with cm but Spurs's result is no more relevant to to point of this thread than that of Liverpool's against Zenit or Arsenal's against Bayern