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b2430h vs p2450

Oh my. Not again. Whichever you like the look of. Image quality is very similar on these two with the B2430H having a slight edge on whites and some colour gradients. Generally in normal use you'd be hard pushed to notice any differences. What pice is the B2430H you're looking at, incidentally?
 
Haha. Sorry to repeat post, i'm sure this is one of those religious debates.. To be uttered for centuries after tfts are redundant.

£168 for the b2430h. I want a solid quality panel for moooovies and steam games, but I can't be spending more than that sort of money as I'd like at some point in the future to buy a second to run next to it (presently running 2x19). I may just skip the waiting though and buy 2xb2230h's now.
 
Hi
Just my 2 penneth:)

I purchased the B2430H about 2 months ago.

Monitor looks very stylish and good on the desk.
Unfortunately, I have a problem with mine which was not resolved after a warranty return.

The bottom right hand corner of the screen has a greeny/brown tinge to it, almost like its not as bright as the rest of the screen.
As stated, sent for warranty repair but came back exactly the same with a few case scratches for my trouble.
Samsung contacted and are in the process of arranging another repair.

My other slight quibble relative to the P2450 is the 5ms response time.
I tend to play quite a bit of pro evo 2011 and i've noticed that the ball in particular has a flair effect when in the air and looks very distorted.

This is not apparent on my old 2ms 19" NEC GX2 Pro and i'm just wondering whether or not the P2450 at 2ms would have been the better buy?
 
The response times you quote there are absolute best-case and don't mean a lot. The 'trailing' you describe is actually the result of the overdrive used to lower the grey-to-grey response time - both the P2450H and B2430H use a similar algorithm for this. It would most likely be reduced somewhat if you can manage to run the game at 120fps on a 120Hz monitor but even that doesn't eliminate such problems entirely.

I am sorry to hear about your issue with the B2430H and it's a shame it hasn't been resolved. The unit I tested had no such issue but I have used monitors in the past with similar problems - it is a fault that is not to do with the model itself but the individual unit. Did it manifest itself early on or did you start noticing it after a while? I would be careful to test such things early as it is a lot easier to deal with returns to the retailer than manufacturers because they tend to replace or refund rather than attempt to repair.
 
Hi PCM2

Didn't really notice fault initially but it became apparent maybe after a week.

Difficult to describe but colours look washed out, blue looks browny blue etc.
Problem apparent in whole of btm right hand corner.

I considered contacting retailer but on their web site, they recommend contacting manufacturer for repairs.

To be fair, Samsung were initially very helpful in a "sub continent" type of way:)
Registered display on Samsung web site and went from their.

Seem to be dragging their heels a bit this time although interestingly, I got a call from a customer care rep asking if the display had already been repaired?

I gave her the full sp and she said she would pass on to relevent people.
No response since.

If necessary, I could probably live with the problem but I shouldn't have to and as the saying goes:-
"Once seen, can't be unseen":)

With regard to the overdrive issue, is their anyway around this as relative to my 19" NEC it is quite apparent.
Not really a problem on anything else I play though and certainly ok on FPS's:)
 
It is probably more noticeable due to the higher resolution and larger screen size but I imagine the overdrive is far less aggressive on your NEC. If you could somehow turn down the overdrive (which you can't) you would most likely discover that in that particular instance the overdrive trailing is of course reduced but conventional trailing would increase. I have been testing this on the XL2410T quite a lot recently and have illustrated the effects of the overdrive here - http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=17972226&postcount=318. I'm sure you'll agree that 120Hz (at 120fps) + AMA overdrive gives the best results on that test. From my situational testing I can confirm this is also the case in the games tested. At 60Hz and 60fps the overdrive trailing is a lot more pronounced and this is probably what you're seeing on your B2430. The effect is also more noticeable on 'high contrast transitions' (at night or in your case a light ball against a much darker background?)
 
You can try following this procedure - http://www.sjkingston.com/blog/service-menu-on-samsung-lcd-monitors/.

When I've accessed the service menu on Samsungs in the past they just display various bits of information and there was no way of adjusting the overdrive. To be honest the trailing without overdrive enabled is generally more noticeable and annoying as well as more widespread. It would certainly be nice to have that option to see if you can reduce it in the particular instance you've described. Obviously the ball movement is an important part of that game ;).
 
PCM2 said:
You can try following this procedure - http://www.sjkingston.com/blog/service-menu-on-samsung-lcd-monitors/.

When I've accessed the service menu on Samsungs in the past they just display various bits of information and there was no way of adjusting the overdrive. To be honest the trailing without overdrive enabled is generally more noticeable and annoying as well as more widespread. It would certainly be nice to have that option to see if you can reduce it in the particular instance you've described. Obviously the ball movement is an important part of that game ;).
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Interesting, thanks:)
I'm not likely to run into any warranty issues by entering service menu am I?

Also, is overdrive something that can be tweaked in firmware updates?

Thanks
 
I would specifically raise this point with Samsung and see what they say. I'd be interested to find out. Entering the service menu won't void your warranty, no - especially if you don't change anything.
 
I'm not sure exactly but I think it is a way of enhancing the apparent resolution of an interpolated source image. It will either do nothing or cause additional input lag on the progressive resolution that is native to the monitor.
 
PCM2 said:
I'm not sure exactly but I think it is a way of enhancing the apparent resolution of an interpolated source image. It will either do nothing or cause additional input lag on the progressive resolution that is native to the monitor.
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And in english:D

It was set to off in service & I can't see any functionality in the regular menu.

Interesting:)
 
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