Seen some reviews on these and they seem to be better.
http://www.digitimes.com/mobos/a20080317PD209.html
http://www.digitimes.com/mobos/a20080317PD209.html
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B3 stepping Phenom within weeks.
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Yeah seen it some hours ago on tomshardware and it appears that the top model will only be 2.5GHz which will provide a performance boost of some sort. What remains to be seen is how these new processors based on the B3 stepping will clock i guess and their pricing.
I dont think they will clock super high until they come out on 45nm, but it's nice to see AMD getting things right even if it took them a long time. Hopefully they can keep ti going to keep Intel on its toes which is good for bang for the buck systems.
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hopefully they can overclock well and we can see a good clocking 5000+ BE type Phenom...
any word on the Tollmans so far?
any word on the Tollmans so far?
B3....B4....Who cares, its old news now. Had they sorted it 6 months ago with the original release they would be reasonable-ish budget solutions. But since you can pick up a Q6600 for only a few quid more than the cheap phenoms its a totally pointless release for anyone, other than those who already have an amd based setup already and are on a very tight budget...
Even they are best off saving another £100 and going intel to be honest.
Even they are best off saving another £100 and going intel to be honest.
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In the world of budget systems, another £100 is a lot of money. If you're on AM2 and have a compatible board, why bother buying a new motherboard and having to go down the windows re-install route when you can just stick a £119 Phenom in?
[heresy]Not everyone overclocks.[/heresy]
In the world of budget systems, another £100 is a lot of money. If you're on AM2 and have a compatible board, why bother buying a new motherboard and having to go down the windows re-install route when you can just stick a £119 Phenom in?
[heresy]Not everyone overclocks.[/heresy]
Agreed
I have to agree, back in the day I couldn't afford expensive CPU's etc, and I wanted a gaming rig, AMD have always offered a good priced chip when Intel's prices have been through the roof. Things haven't changed all that much since the early days.
where did you read this, i thought the only info we had fron Anand was that the B3 steppings perform exactly the same as the B2 with the TLB Fix disabled? it was a B2 they got @ 3.0Ghz to boot into windows, but only stable for apps/games @ 2.6Ghz
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Apparently they are out today. See here. More power hungry than a Q6600 though.
They said this in a review a few days back http://anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3260&p=3
"Our B3 sample was very similar to our B2 chip in that we could get it stable at 2.6GHz but didn't have much luck getting it to run comfortably any faster. We suspect that it'll take a move to 45nm before AMD can really start to push the clock speed on Phenom."
and also a brand new review today http://anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3272&p=3
"We aimed for 3.0GHz and while we could get into Windows and run some benchmarks, we couldn't get it 100% stable. In our opinion it's highly unlikely we'll see AMD release a 3.0GHz Phenom on 65nm this year. It may be possible on 45nm but it's still too early to tell if that'll be this year or not."
Oh, and some gaming benchies
example of a very gpu limited game (oblivion):
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