Baltimore Bridge

[Ayahuasca]

Crew trapped on Baltimore ship, seven weeks after bridge collapse

Morale is low for the Dali's crew members, who are stranded on board by the ongoing investigation into the tragedy.

www.bbc.co.uk

Pretty crazy that the 21 crew are still on board 7 weeks later.

 

[Blackjack Davy]

Crew trapped on Baltimore ship, seven weeks after bridge collapse

Morale is low for the Dali's crew members, who are stranded on board by the ongoing investigation into the tragedy.

www.bbc.co.uk

Pretty crazy that the 21 crew are still on board 7 weeks later.

If the ship were at sea instead of in harbour they'd still be stuck on board infact they're often at sea for months on end, its a commercial contract and they get paid for it

 

[Ayahuasca]

If the ship were at sea instead of in harbour they'd still be stuck on board infact they're often at sea for months on end, its a commercial contract and they get paid for it

Yeah, but the ship is not at sea and operational, they're sitting in the same place they were 7 weeks ago with no idea when they'll get off.

 

[The Funktopus]

From when I worked at sea, they’re probably grateful to be within mobile range of land.

 

[jeffspuds]

Crashed into a bridge, they are being detained.

 

[Ayahuasca]

From when I worked at sea, they’re probably grateful to be within mobile range of land.

I doubt it if you read the article.

The crew has been left largely without communication with the outside world for "a couple of weeks" after their mobile phones were confiscated by the FBI as part of the investigation.

"They can't do any online banking. They can't pay their bills at home. They don't have any of their data or anyone's contact information, so they're really isolated right now," Mr Messick said. "They just can't reach out to the folks they need to, or even look at pictures of their children before they go to sleep. It's really a sad situation."

 

[aVdub]

Finally moved to berth.

Video: Containership Dali Successfully Moved to Baltimore Berth

The refloating operation and removal of the Dali from the wreck site of the Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore was completed this morning, May 20,...

maritime-executive.com

 

[BUDFORCE]

Inflation doesn't take in to account increased design standards. Increased labour welfare. Increased safety requirements. So on, so forth.

It doesn't include the back handers you mean.

 

[Blackjack Davy]

Seeing the state of the front of that ship those shipping containers on the nose flattened like a concertined pancake with a section of roadway across it and the smashed hull. I wouldn't want to handed the insurance bill for the cost of rebuilding the bridge and the ship is scrap surely

 

[Werewolf]

Seeing the state of the front of that ship those shipping containers on the nose flattened like a concertined pancake with a section of roadway across it and the smashed hull. I wouldn't want to handed the insurance bill for the cost of rebuilding the bridge and the ship is scrap surely

From memory most of these big ships are built in sections, so depending on what a structural survey of it says they might well repair it as the cost of the repair is still likely to be less than the cost of scrapping it even if they had to do something like put a new front on it (at least if it's fairly new).

Things like "newish" big ships and commercial aircraft are rarely written off if they can repair them to a sufficient standard (on a ship that costs £100+ million and 5 years wait to build a few million for a repair is cheap), as you have the cost difference between what you might get from the insurance for writing it off, and potentially the cost in lost capacity/business whilst you go to the back of the queue for a new one to be built to order.

 

[aVdub]

They will only pay xxxxxx amount towards the cost, insurance picks up the rest, but that first payment will rise next time.

 

[Dis86]

From memory most of these big ships are built in sections, so depending on what a structural survey of it says they might well repair it as the cost of the repair is still likely to be less than the cost of scrapping it even if they had to do something like put a new front on it (at least if it's fairly new).

Things like "newish" big ships and commercial aircraft are rarely written off if they can repair them to a sufficient standard (on a ship that costs £100+ million and 5 years wait to build a few million for a repair is cheap), as you have the cost difference between what you might get from the insurance for writing it off, and potentially the cost in lost capacity/business whilst you go to the back of the queue for a new one to be built to order.

Yip. Prefabricated sections. I've seen existing ships lengthened by dropping another section in so cutting off a knackered bow shouldn't be too much trouble!

 

[Werewolf]

Yip. Prefabricated sections. I've seen existing ships lengthened by dropping another section in so cutting off a knackered bow shouldn't be too much trouble!

That's the sort of thing I'm thinking of, IIRC Samsung has huge shipyards where they basically have a production line making sections and then just welding them together, so if the ship involved in this case was built in a similar facility I'd imagine it's possible at worst to order a new section possibly with an updated bow section.

 

[Jokester]

Loose Wire on Containership Dali Leads to Blackouts and Contact with Baltimore’s Francis Scott Key Bridge

www.ntsb.gov

This was ultimately caused by misapplied wire labelling causing the wire crimp to fail to be properly clamped in its terminal.

 

[Dis86]

Thats a toolbox talk with my electricians and mechanics sorted for tomorrow.

 

[Diddums]

Thats a toolbox talk with my electricians and mechanics sorted for tomorrow.

Definitely. Anything to keep them safe from crashing their freight ships in to bridges.

 

[Dis86]

Definitely. Anything to keep them safe from crashing their freight ships in to bridges.

6 ships. 30 jetties. 3 piers. 20 quays.

2 years ago we had 32 jetties...

 

[Hagar]

6 ships. 30 jetties. 3 piers. 20 quays.

2 years ago we had 32 jetties...

I had that happen in Gravesend, 1978, a muck barge slid on sloping ground although moored to the quayside and took out a jetty. We were grab dredging and waiting on the tide to return. Kind of embarrassing.

We got the fIre brigade out to ballast it down before refloating.

 

[Dis86]

I had that happen in Gravesend, 1978, a muck barge slid on sloping ground although moored to the quayside and took out a jetty. We were grab dredging and waiting on the tide to return. Kind of embarrassing.

We got the fIre brigade out to ballast it down before refloating.

One of these was caused by weather, sudden gust drove the vessel sideways in to the jetty and the azipods couldn't counter in time. Utterly destroyed the jetty.

The other was pilot/captain comms failure. Foreign captain, geordie pilot.