Banking - Interest Rates

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So I'm sure many of you have seen that Santander have been cutting a lot of things. It's a great business model as over the years they scooped up the market with enticing interest rates and cashback deals on your direct debits, but slowly have been increasing the charge for the service and reducing the amount you can earn.

I just worked out that over the last 6 months all of the cashback from my direct debits combined and then minus the £5 a month fee, I've earnt a whopping £1.74 which equates to 29p per month.

I've already ditched my Santander 123 credit card in favour of the American Express Platinum Cashback card which is earning well for me and making my money go further, especially as I spend a lot of money on flights and hotels over the course of a year.

Now Tesco Bank have sprung back into the market after their hiccups last year and are offering 3% of balances up to £3000 and the trick is, that you can have 2 accounts, meaning in a couple you could have 4, each earning £90 a year in interest with no fee, no minimum payment and no need to set up any direct debits or anything to qualify.

Another key one I've found is Bank of Scotland who are offering 3% on balances up to £5000 and you can open 3 accounts with them meaning you could earn £150 per year per account in interest. With this you do have to put in a minimum of £1000 per month and have 2 direct debits set up. The way I see this one, is to use 2 to keep cash in and the 3rd to use as a main account making sure at least £5000 stays in there.

To keep each bank a fair playing field, I looked at what the potential earnings could be on £15,000 as that is the max you can have with BOS and came up with the following:

Tesco 1 (£3000) - £90
Tesco 2 (£3000) - £90
Tesco 3 (£3000) - £90
Tesco 4 (£3000) - £90
Santander (£3000) - £45
Santander fee - Minus £60

Grand total - £345

Santander (£15000) - £180
Santander fee - Minus £60

Grand total - £120

Bank of Scotland 1 (£5000) - £150
Bank of Scotland 2 (£5000) - £150
Bank of Scotland 3 (£5000) - £150

Grand total - £450

Clearly the winner is Bank of Scotland, BUT, its interest rate hasn't moved since the base rate cut in August 2016, so could be cut at any time. Obviously they have to give you 60 days notice and then you can jump ship, but could give you a handsome earner on your money whereas Tesco, while it won't offer as much interest over the year (£345 with the Santander added in compared to £450) they have stated that the 3% interest rate will be fixed until 1st April 2019.

So the question is, do you go with the slightly less earner with a bit more security as to the rate or do you go with the higher earner that could be cut at any time (60 days notice).

I'm sure others are in the same boat as me and wanting to make their money go further, so keen to get opinions.

Thanks,

Andy
 
Nationwide have a current account with a guaranteed 5% for a year on balances of £2500 and a regular savings account at 5% as well.
 
How do you think us pensioners feel

At one point we were raking in £12k a year - now we just leave it in our bank as the return anywhere is absolutely rubbish it isn't worth bothering with the faff of looking for best rates.

I just spend it now - Please come back 6%
 
Nursie;30486842 said:
Nationwide have a current account with a guaranteed 5% for a year on balances of £2500 and a regular savings account at 5% as well.

I looked at that which would work out at:

Current account - £125
Savings - £162.50 (have to stagger deposits at £500 per month)

Grand total - £287.50

Would then have another £6500 sitting somewhere else not earning money.

Andy
 
Superficial;30486901 said:
Does each BOS account need the £1000 and 2 DD's? or just going into one account and then you can have 2 other accounts with no conditions?

Taken from MoneySavingExpert:

Multiple accounts tip two: You can recycle £1,000 to meet the pay-in criteria – simply set up a standing order to move it from account one to account two, then two days later to account three, but remember to keep cash in to pay the direct debits.

Multiple accounts tip three: If you don't have enough direct debits, set up small direct debits to specific savings accounts or even to charity. Bank of Scotland doesn't care where the money's going, as long as they're direct debits.
 
Aruffell;30486872 said:
I looked at that which would work out at:

Current account - £125
Savings - £162.50 (have to stagger deposits at £500 per month)

Grand total - £287.50

Would then have another £6500 sitting somewhere else not earning money.

Andy

Surely you'd then have another £6500 of that to put elsewhere, such as RBS?
 
I've got this similiar setup.

Club Lloyds (2 DD) -> Santander (2 DD) -> Nationwide -> TSB -> Tesco

I closed my BOS one as they added the direct debits on and it became a PITA.

Didn't know Tesco allow two, might move Santander savings to it as it'll pay more.
 
manic111;30486913 said:
Surely you'd then have another £6500 of that to put elsewhere, such as RBS?

Ok, so in that case you'd have:

Current account - £125
Savings - £162.50 (have to stagger deposits at £500 per month)
Bank of Scotland 1 (£5000) - £150

Grand total - £437.50

£1500 leftover

Still doesn't beat the 3 bank of scotland accounts.

Once again, with the Nationwide, they haven't confirmed how long the rate will stay, have they?

EDIT: Also with Nationwide you must have been paying in £750+ a month for the last 3 months or switched using the switching service.
 
DXP55;30486860 said:
How do you think us pensioners feel

At one point we were raking in £12k a year - now we just leave it in our bank as the return anywhere is absolutely rubbish it isn't worth bothering with the faff of looking for best rates.

I just spend it now - Please come back 6%

Same here, while the rates have been extraordinary low, I've been over paying on the mortgage, which is all done now.. For the first time ever, I need rates to rise :) I never thought i'd ever say that in 1992.
 
DXP55;30486860 said:
How do you think us pensioners feel

Not even 10% as shafted as every other pensioner that comes after you. £12k a year is bonkers by today's climate, get over yourself.
 
Ok, so looking into this and having the fear that BOS could slash their rate at any time. I see the following maybe being the best:

Bank of Scotland 1 (£5000) - £150
Tesco 1 (£3000) - £90
Tesco 2 (£3000) - £90
Tesco 3 (£3000) - £90

Grand total - £420

Little less than doing the 3 BOS accounts BUT you don't need a minimum deposit on the Tesco ones or any direct debits set up so could just switch your main account to BOS and then open up 2 tesco accounts and get the other half to open the other. Then another if you have more than £15k. I was simply basing on £15k as a reasonable amount and to have a level playing field.

Andy
 
Aruffell;30486802 said:
Tesco 1 (£3000) - £90
Tesco 2 (£3000) - £90
Tesco 3 (£3000) - £90
Tesco 4 (£3000) - £90
Santander (£3000) - £45
Santander fee - Minus £60

Grand total - £345

Odd combination you've picked here. Scrap Santander and earn £15 more no matter where that last £3k is.

Put that last £3k in a BOS and get about £100 from that so £460 total i.e the best option?
 
Aruffell;30486924 said:
EDIT: Also with Nationwide you must have been paying in £750+ a month for the last 3 months or switched using the switching service.

That isn't correct. I've opened a Flexdirect account and the savings account in the past 2 weeks without using their switching service.

You can also have 1 and a joint flexdirect account, So you and partner could have 3 between you. You could also try and take advantage of their switching referral offer and get another £200 between you
 
Good spot on the Tesco account. At the moment I've got Lloyds, Santander, TSB and Halifax current accounts and like you have found that the Santander account really isn't worth it for me with the increased fees and lower interest/cashback. I only had the Halifax account for the £5 a month but that's been slashed to £3, I don't keep any cash in there. I've been meaning to switch from Santander for a while so I'll have a look at Tesco.
 
Santander is 1.5% currently.
You seem to have worked out the figures incorrectly.
Should be £225 for 15K minus their fees of £60, assuming you do not get any cashback for using the account to mitigate the fees, which should be the case, your rates/council tax, electric phones and communications should be DD from there.
 
Switched from tesco for 150 bribe + 50 cashback. Which kind of dwarfs any of the regular schemes. The rest goes on stocks and shares with 5+pc dividends

That's 200 with no games attached
 
Freefaller;30488391 said:
All this effort for the sake of a few hundred quid doesn't seem worth it to me :confused: :(

Depends how much you earn I guess. I'm not willing to jump through hoops but I don't mind switching
 
Freefaller;30488391 said:
All this effort for the sake of a few hundred quid doesn't seem worth it to me :confused: :(

It is odd now, premium bonds are at a lower overall rate, due to their payout being biased by a big win or to at a million per days, but oddly, given the paltry rates, if you had 4K to #invest' sticking it all in premium bonds will see one £25 win matching and beating 90% of accounts out there now.
Worrying.
 
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