• Competitor rules

    Please remember that any mention of competitors, hinting at competitors or offering to provide details of competitors will result in an account suspension. The full rules can be found under the 'Terms and Rules' link in the bottom right corner of your screen. Just don't mention competitors in any way, shape or form and you'll be OK.

barton core xp3000

keef

keef

keef

Associate
Joined
15 Feb 2006
Posts
444
i s abarton core xp3000 worth 25 quid?

i am looking at upgrading one of my old pc's. its a socket a setup on a crappy board but i have goto bored of 64bit and completed all my set tasks in that area.

i am wanting to fill a void until i get conroe probably, only did limited overclocking on socket a. i have a 1700xp and have chance of a 3000 barton core for 25 pounds, would it be worth it or could i get something better for that kind of money?
 
£25 is a great price as these tend to command a fair bit of money

The Barton 3000+ is a great chip too but it isn't a good clocker. The XP1700 is regarded as a good clocker (if you have the Thoroughbred core), particuarly if you get a decent stepping, so you should be able to clock it to similar speeds. The extra cache of the Barton would be handy though

If you have a poor board though, it's likely that that will limit any overclocks. In this case, it is worth upgrading to an XP3000+ from an XP1700+
 
im after a socket a dfi then i have dfi on socket a, 754 and 939!
i know they will be a lot of money though! oh and hard to find.
the scondition of the 3000 is unknown, so i just found out, said he pulled it from a system.
i have a thoroughbred 1700, what steppings are good? i only know 754 and 939! im a noob @ socket a.
 
I have a DFI lanparty Ultra B sort of spare. I have no idea how much they'll fetch. Tried ebay?
 
The DUT3C stepping is good

I'd also seriously consider the A-Bit NF7-S V2 - this is an amazing Socket A board

I'd look at getting an XP-M 2500+ or 2600+ if you can find these cheaply as they'll do 2.4-2.6GHz
 
i have got a xpm 2600 in another rig, cant touch that though, it is on loan to a mate from when i went 64 bit :(
sorting him out a 64bit upgrade in the next month or so, so i could claim that back off him! its on an asrock board though so i would still need a mobo. im quite interested to see what this 1700 is, hope its a good stepping, im gonna pull it and see :D
 
the 1700 is a dut3c jiumb 0309 upmw! cool is that an ok one, gonna have to search through a million old threads now to find out!
im gonna look for abit boards now, want one quickly now! :p
 
I had a Athlon XP 1700+. Though never tried overclocking it. It cooked my room half the time considering the amount of heat it produced. But yes, it was good for its time but then I replaced it with a 2600+ Thoroughbred which couldn't clock at all, not sure if it was because of my other components but it just wouldn't budge beyond 2GHz.

I still can't believe how much the AthlonXP 3000+ fetches nowadays on ebay. :eek:
 
Run my DFI Infinity nForec 2 at 250FSB with my XP-M 2400 for the last 8 months, thing is quick esp with mem at 1:1

Deffo get one if you can find one, may even sell mine soon ;-)
 
uhhhhhhhh, looked in the faq and my user cp, couldnt find anything, what do i do? forum nnnooooobbbbbbb, sorry!
 
There's lots of misinformation in this thread.

Firstly, a Barton is worth £25, in fact, it's worth a fair bit more. At least £40 for a 2500XP, ranging to about £100 for a 3200XP.

It's wrong to say that a 3000XP will be a bad clocker. That's just the label on it that determines what AMD clocked it at and how much they sold it for. When it comes to overclocking, you can - and remember nothing is guaranteed - tell how good a processor is by it's stepping. IQYHA steppings were available on mobile chips, and some desktop chips, and pretty much all of them did 2.5 GHz. Whether it was a 2400XP-M, a 2500XP-M, 2600XP-M, a 2800XP or a 3000XP was irrelevant, because they all had the same stepping. I have a 3000XP here that does 2.7 GHz if given enough volts, and that was on air. So much for being poor clockers...

Next up, DLT3C is not a stepping. It's a bit of a part number. DUT3C is also not a stepping, it's again a bit of a part number. These letters tell you the stock voltage, the temperature the processor is rated to, the amount of cache and the default FSB of the processor. DLT3Cs were loved by many because they had lower stock voltages, meaning that most of them had more overclocking headroom.

When you gave the codes from a processor, the JUIMB part was the stepping. I also think you made a mistake and that it's JUIHB, but that's irrelevant. So if you do a Google search, you'll find that a lot of them did around 2.2 GHz, some did more, some did less.

And lastly, a Thoroughbred core 2600XP had a stock speed of 2.13 GHz. If it wasn't able to do that, and the rest of your components were able to support it, then it was defective.

P.S. AIM is AOL Instant Messenger.
 
excellent, a wealth of information there! thought aim was that! :)
secondly, as regards to the 1700then if this baby will getto two gig i would be happy! could you throw me a link with the explanation of the steppings etc please? would appreciate that very much, would like to know how many volts i can put through her! thanks for taking the time to explain all that1 all i need know is a good socket a mobo to try!
 
This site explains what the part numbers mean. I have come across a site that listed the supposed meaning of the steppings; it's to do with things like revision of the processor etc. There's not a definitive list of good steppings and bad steppings though.

You want an nForce2 based motherboard. The Abit NF7-S is the best, although some will argue for the DFI boards. With a decent heatsink, like a Thermalright SLK900 or something, you can run 1.8V through them safely. Only push it that high if necessary obviously.

Whilst I can tell from the DUT3D part of the part number that it is a Thoroughbred core, I don't know if it is a Thoroughbred A or Thoroughbred B based on that bit. The A's did rather poorly, the B's were the ones that did 2 GHz plus with ease. However, the stepping will tell you. If it ends with a B then it is a Thoroughbred B, if it ends with an A, then you have an A. Since I think it was a JUIHB, then it's a Thoroughbred B.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom