Base clocks on Intel CPUs appear to be decreasing each generation. Why?

[Grim5]

The difference is AMD's CPU's don't go above the TPD rating, how they get to that TDP rating is questionable given they don't include the IO die in it, the CCD/s are rated to 105 watts, they are hard locked to that unless you turn BPO on.

5800X clocks to 4.6Ghz in R23 at 105 watts CCD, the 5950X about 4Ghz at 105 watts for both CCD's combined.

The IO die uses about 15 to 25 watts.

Yea they do, my 5950x can do up to 130w in cinebench

 

[Grim5]

So, it looks like the base clocks for the 13th gen are going to be even lower than their counterparts in the 12th generation series:

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12900K base clock =3.2ghz. 13900K baseclock = 3.0ghz.
12700K base clock =3.6ghz. 13700K baseclock = 3.4ghz.
12600K base clock =3.7ghz. 13600K baseclock = 3.5ghz.

50% more cores, same process node, only 200mhz lower base sounds good

 

[g67575]

It's OK, but some P-Core power efficiency appears to be lost.

3ghz for the 13900K isn't really a desirable base clock, at 4 and 5ghz, the power usage will increase disproportionately.

It looks like Intel is offering a lot of E-cores even on the 13th gen i5s, if there's specs are reliable. So, good multithreaded performance even at the low-mid end. It would be good to see more models without E-cores though, at a reduced price.

 

[Dg834man]

Yea they do, my 5950x can do up to 130w in cinebench

It's not running stock then, the default setting for pbo is auto on my MSI b550 carbon it's not unrestricted power limits but they are above stock.