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ReaVerUK

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Probly a dumb question but is it worth saving £15ish by getting a Celeron D 352 3.2GHz 65nm chip as apposed to a P4 630 3.0GHz 90nm.

If the celeron is anything like my internet rigs (+1G @ stock voltages) it'll overclock like a ***** which may help but i'm unsure of the P4 clocking ability.

Brother and missus who have no need for anything special, just browse and office apps, want a faster machine (Currently P4 1.6GHz) for as little as possible.

Any suggestions in this kind of price range (30-50) welcome as i aint looked at budget chips for a while especially AMD's which have passed me by in the last 4-5Yrs.
 
a lot of people up on hearing the word 'celeron' will have a knee jerk reaction to it and state that you should not buy it, remember its speed is relative to its duty .

if all you want a cheap cpu for is to browse and do some office stuff, then a celeron is totally fine.
 
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Hesky82 said:
dont forget you will need a new motherboard to run a c2d celeron, that old p4 will be socket 478.
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No it won't. 500 and 600 series Pentium 4's were Prescott cores, LGA775. You seem to forget LGA775 has been going for almost 4 years now. Chances are the chipset won't support Core 2's, though. Sod's law ain't it? :p

Some Cely D's need 478, but the 65nm cedar mill cores are 775, from what I've seen they hit 4GHz on air easily.
 
wellibob said:
I would rather have no legs than a celeron :D
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A lack of legs might explain your inability to move with the times. Since the 4x0 series the Celerons have been a single core Core2 CPU. Now they are dual cores with a smaller cache. As cache has little impact on most computer uses (CPU intensive applications aside) the latest Celerons are massive performance bargains. In the same way that canny buyers have looked past the word Pentium on the E2xx0 series, the bargain hunters can now get a real performance bargain in the Celerons too, simply because they clock like crazy.
 
wellibob said:
Tell me, do you own a celeron chip ?
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Yes. I've had 3 4x0 series (2 x 420's and a 430) and I've got a 1200 here at 3.2GHz (100% overclock) on air cooling.

I've also got Q6600's, Xeon 3210's, an E8400 and a couple of 2180's. Between my test toys, my games machines and my SAP test suite I'm running almost 20 PCs in almost every possible hardware configuration and I really rate these new Celerons for entry level users, which is what is being asked for here.
 
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Lightnix said:
No it won't. 500 and 600 series Pentium 4's were Prescott cores, LGA775. You seem to forget LGA775 has been going for almost 4 years now. Chances are the chipset won't support Core 2's, though. Sod's law ain't it? :p

Some Cely D's need 478, but the 65nm cedar mill cores are 775, from what I've seen they hit 4GHz on air easily.
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I think the OP's post was a little confusing as he was talking about upgrading from a 1.6GHz P4, which would be either S423 or S478 depending on how old it was. The two newer chips mentioned are indeed S775, so he may have access to a non-Core2Duo compatible S775 motherboard he wants to upgrade.
 
mattyrigby00 said:
apparently the dual core celerons are about the same as 90nm amd x2's clock for clock due to the low cache.
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That's probably about true, but then clock for clock, Core2Duo's aren't a great deal faster than that. The beauty of the Intels is that they clock like anything, and I'd rather have my 3.2GHz C1200 than a 2.0GHz AMD X2 for £25.
 
wellibob said:
Blimey.. i best shut up , or cut my legs off !! :D
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Nah!, I've just re-read my post and what was meant to be a humorous comment about a lack of physical mobility = a lack of keeping up with progress could come across as a bit aggressive. Sorry if you read it like that.

There's a :D sign here for a reason!

I hadn't actually realised that you can now get an OEM 2GHz AMD X2 X3800 for £25 from OcUK. That's ridiculously cheap really, and it sort of shows how desperate AMD must be to try and hang on to market share now.
 
I had no idea the daul core celerons were as you say. Ive had a good read up, and filled in holes in my knowledge :D My "no legs" comment wasnt really a constructive one , or the slightest bit helpful !
 
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